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Current requests for approval

Operator: Usernamekiran (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 15:59, Tuesday, September 24, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: update Accelerated Mobile Pages/AMP links to normal links

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): pywikibot

Source code available:

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): requested at BOTREQ around 1.5 years ago: Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 84#Accelerated Mobile Pages link eradicator needed, and village pump: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_202#Accelerated_Mobile_Pages_links, recently requested at BOTREQ a few days ago: special:permalink/1247505851.

Edit period(s): either weekly or monthly

Requested edit rate: 1 edit per 50 seconds.

Estimated number of pages affected: around 8,000 for now, but the estimation is high, around thousands of pages. later as they come in.

Namespace(s): main/article

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): yes (for now), if required, that can be changed later

Function details: with usage of extensive regex patters, the bot looks for AMP links. It avoids false matching with general "amp" words in the domains eg yamaha-amplifiers.com. After finding, and updating the a link, the bot checks if the new/updated link is working, if it gets a 200 response code, the bot updates the link in article. Otherwise, the bot adds that article title, and (non-updated) link to a log file (this can be saved to a log page as well). —usernamekiran (talk) 15:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • addendum: I should have included this already, but I forgot. In the BOTREQ, and other discussions, an open source "amputatorbot" github was discussed. This bot has a lot of irrelevant functions for wikipedia. The only relevant feature is to remove AMP links. But for this, the amputatorbot utilises a database for storing a list of ~400k ~200k AMP links, and another list of canonical links of these AMP links. Maintaining this database, and the never-ending list of links for Wikipedia is not feasible. The program I created utilises comprehensive regex patterns. It also handles the archived links gracefully. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

  • Maintaining this database, and the never-ending list of links for Wikipedia is not feasible But you wouldn't have to maintain this database right, if the authors of that GitHub repo already do, or have made it available?
  • The program I created utilises comprehensive regex patterns. It also handles the archived links gracefully. Would you mind providing those patterns here for evaluation?

Aside from that, happy for this to go to trial. @GreenC: any comments on this, and does this fall into the scope of your bot? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I will soon post the link to github, and reasoning for avoiding the database method. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:21, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ProcrastinatingReader: Hi. Yes, the author at github has made it available, but I think the database has not been updated in 4 years, I am not sure though. I also could not find the database itself. If we utilise the database, the bot would not process the "unknown" amp links that are not in the database. In that case we will have to use the method that we are currently using. Also, the general process would be more resource intensive I think, ie: "1: search for the amp links in articles 2: if amp link is found in article, look for it in the database 3: find the corresponding canonical link 4: replace in the article. Even if the database is being maintained, we will have to keep it updated, and we will have to add our new findings to the database. I think this simpler approach would be better. KiranBOT at github, AmputatorBot readme at github. Kindly let me know what you think. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    PS: I notified GreenC on their talkpage. Also, in the script, I added more comments than I usually do, and the script was created over the days/in parts, so the commenting might feel a little odd. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This sounds like a good idea. I ran into AMP URLs with the Times of India domains, and made many conversions. It seemed site specific. Like m.timesofindia.com became timesofindia.indiatimes.com and "(amp_articleshow|amp_videoshow|amp_etphotostory|amp_ottmoviereview|amp_etc..)" had the "amp_" part removed. Anyway, I'll watchlist this page and feel free to ping me for input once test edits are made. -- GreenC 23:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ProcrastinatingReader: if there are no further questions/doubts, is a trial in order? I am sure about one issue related to https, but I think we should discuss it after the trial. —usernamekiran (talk) 15:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • {{BAG assistance needed}} —usernamekiran (talk) 08:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reviewing the code, you're applying a set of rules (amp.domain.tldwww.domain.tld, /amp//, ?amp=true&...?...) and then checking the URL responds with 200 to a HEAD request. That seems good for most cases, but there are going to be some instances where the site uses an unusual AMP URL mapping and responds with 200 to all/most/some invalid requests, especially considering we are following redirects (but not updating the URL to the followed redirect). It also will not work for the example edit from the BOTREQ? I don't know how to solve this issue without some way of checking the redirected page actually contains some of the content we are looking for, or access to a database of checked mappings. Maybe the frequency of mistakes will be low enough for this to not be a problem? I am unsure. Any thoughts from others? — The Earwig (talk) 16:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    These are good points. Soft-404s and soft-redirects are the biggest (but not only) issues with URL changes. With soft-404s, you first process the links without committing changes, log redirect URLs, see which redirect URLs are repeating, manually inspect them to see if they are a soft-404; then process the links again with a trap added to treat the identified soft-404s as a dead link. Not all repeating redirects are soft-404s but many will be, you have to do the discovery work. For soft-redirects, it requires foreknowledge based on manual inspections, like the Times of India example above. URL changes are difficult for these reasons, and others mentioned in WP:LINKROT#Glossary. -- GreenC 17:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GreenC any suggestions on logic/algorithm? I will try to implement them. I dont mind further work to perfect the program —usernamekiran (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: Rusty Cat (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 15:17, Sunday, September 15, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Categorize and create redirects to year pages (AD and BC).

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): Python (pywikibot)

Source code available: Will provide if needed

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bot requests#Articles about years: redirects and categories

Edit period(s): one time run

Estimated number of pages affected: about 1000-2000 year pages, so assuming we have to create 3 redirects for each, maximum 6000

Namespace(s): Main

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: For each number 1-2000, the bot will operate on the pages "AD number" and "number BC".

  • On AD pages, the bot will append Category:Years AD to the page if it does not already have it.
  • The bot will create redirects "ADyear", "year AD", and "yearAD" to AD pages, and "BCyear", "BC year", and "yearBC" to the BC pages.


Discussion

Operator: Ponor (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 23:36, Saturday, July 20, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: WP:MASSCREATE the remaining 3200 out of 6700 Croatian naseljes (settlements), which are the third level division of the country. The bot can create stubs like Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County. Update the existing articles with ZIP codes (new official source), and historical population data graphs (where possible, under full supervision).

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic creation. Supervised or manual updates.

Programming language(s): Python @ PAWS

Source code available: possible

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Archive 5#Croatian settlement articles mass creation

Edit period(s): one time run

Estimated number of pages affected: 3200 (+2500 or so)

Namespace(s): Articles

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): irrelevant

Function details:

  1. Create some 3200 articles from the list Wikipedia:WikiProject Croatia/To Do List/Missing settlements, link them with Wikidata.
  2. Update existing Croatian settlement articles with ZIP codes and historical population data graphs, where possible (time permitting). The same job has been completed on hrwiki for all 6700 settlements.


Discussion

Needs wider discussion. The discussion you link was between you and only one other person. Please seek consensus at WP:Village pump (proposals) or a similar venue where we can be sure many people have seen it. Anomie 01:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... Thanks, though I'm not sure I wanna go through anything like Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 207 again. I thought the 2000+ existing Croatian settlement stubs would prove the current consensus. A few hundred stubs created by the two users I mentioned in the linked WikiProject:Croatia discussion definitely contain less information than my bot can add, and were all kept. Let me ping @Joy to see if he can help push this through... somewhere. I don't have time for endless opinionated discussions myself, I'm afraid. Ponor (talk) 01:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You linked to a failed proposal to tighten the notability guideline, but it has little relevance to this proposal, because if all these new articles look like Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County there's no way anyone's going to propose their deletion. These are not gas pumps masquerading as villages.
Even if we wanted to upmerge that information into list articles, those historical population graphs would just seem to be unwieldy, it would be pointless shoehorning.
@Primefac had previously allowed Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PonoRoboT and I don't remember seeing any problems, it seemed to be a nice, straightforward improvement to the encyclopedia.
@Anomie, is there a real difference here? IOW why would this change to these 3k settlement articles need more discussion when the previous change to analogous 3k settlement articles didn't?
The fact that one group of 3k Croatian places has articles while another group of them doesn't is a historical fluke. If we need a discussion on making this situation consistent, the previously existing group needs to be discussed as well. But we already know they all qualify under WP:5P1 etc, so I don't quite see why this would be frowned upon according to standard processes (WP:BOLD, WP:NOTBURO). --Joy (talk) 06:32, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was only reminding everyone what our notability discussions end up looking like. Since there were recent MEAT creations of these stubs, I'm thinking creating them by hand would be a waste of anyone's precious time if I can do the same thing, or better, by my bot.
I see that, for example, Serbia has all of their 3rd level two-sentence geo stubs created since 2010 or so. That says WP:EDITCON is there, no? Ponor (talk) 10:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The real difference between Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PonoRoboT and this is that this is about creations, and the community has for many years now wanted to vet bot creations of articles before they happen. And that's regardless of whether the proposed creations would pass WP:N (part of it is that the community wants independent evaluation of that before the creations happen) or whether other articles on the topic or related topics already exist.
If you want to refer to policy, WP:MASSCREATION says (emphasis added) It is also strongly encouraged (and may be required by BAG) that community input be solicited at WP:Village pump (proposals) and the talk pages of any relevant WikiProjects. Unless you can get another BAGger to proceed without, this is me requiring. Anomie 11:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with Anomie on this one; we have an editor who, while other factors were involved, wanted to do a similar thing for 300 pages and is restricted to only making one per month. Creating ten times as many one-paragraph sub-stubs in a fraction of the time will need consensus. Yes, they aren't just gas stations, but other than "Town X has a population Y" there appears to be no more information readily available, so I would like to see a reasonable consensus to create these (and not just two editors agreeing it would be a good idea). As Anomie said, your first approved task was updating information, not creating new pages. Primefac (talk) 12:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a clerical difference, it's just because some editor mass-created tens of thousands of these two decades ago and happened to miss half of the Croatian settlements. But okay, let's go through the motions, I'll file a proposal when I have the time (and if no one beats me to it). --Joy (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ponor the best way to substantiate this proposal would be to make sure we show some external references on e.g. the Bureau of Statistics doing proper work (documenting existing human habitation as opposed to something weird), and illustrate the body of scholarly and other work out there on the topic of these settlements. If you have something to this effect already, please share. --Joy (talk) 19:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll help with everything I know, but can't take the burden of convincing everyone on the project alone atm. I'd start with the first four refs in Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County: there are laws, one agency takes care of the division(s), the bureau uses their data. Every town and municipality have their web page listing these settlements. Most settlements have a church, school, etc. Let's continue at WikiProject Croatia, huh? Ponor (talk) 19:20, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd oppose the bot creating any more pages until Module:Croatian population data graph is translated into English and more pages become uneditable by editors unfamiliar with the language. Gonnym (talk) 11:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 On hold. Please feel free to disable the {{BotOnHold}} template when consensus about the appropriateness of this task has been demonstrated. Primefac (talk) 23:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: BilledMammal (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 08:51, Monday, July 8, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: Adjusts templates based on provided JSON configuration files. This request is limited to Template:Cite news and Template:Cite web, and is primarily intended to correct issues where the work or publisher is linked to the wrong target.

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available: Not currently

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): Initially, irregular one-off runs, with each held after significant expansions to the configuration file. Once most citations have been fixed I will open a request for continuous operation in a maintenance mode.

Estimated number of pages affected: Varies considerably based on configuration. This configuration, which applies to ten sources, will edit approximately 23,000. This configuration, which goes beyond correcting wrong links and also always inserts the correct link when one is missing, will edit approximately 450,000.

Namespace(s): Mainspace

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Adjusts parameters of Cite news and Cite web based on a configuration file. This configuration can be applied to any parameter, but the intent of this request is to apply it to the following:

  • work
  • publisher
  • publication-place
  • department
  • agency
  • url-access

It determines which change to apply based on current parameter field values. Any field or combination of fields can be used, but the intent of this request is to use the "url" field.

Adjustments can be specified as "always", "onEdit", or "never". When "always" is specified, if a change is identified as being desired for a parameter the article will be edited to implement it. When "onEdit" is specified, desirable changes are only implemented if we are already editing the page. This reduces the impact on watchlists by skipping articles that don't have high priority issues.

Configuration schema
{
  "$schema": "http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#",
  "type": "array",
  "items": {
    "type": "object",
    "properties": {
      "includes": {
        "type": "array",
        "items": {
          "type": "object",
          "properties": {
            "key": {
              "type": "string",
              "example": "url"
            },
            "value": {
              "type": "array",
              "items": {
                "type": "string",
                "example": ["www.bbc.com", "www.bbc.co.uk"]
              }
            }
              
          }
        },
        "description": "Lists conditions required to be met for this configuration to be applied to the template."
      },
      "excludes": {
        "type": "array",
        "items": {
          "type": "object",
          "properties": {
            "key": {
              "type": "string",
              "example": "url"
            },
            "value": {
              "type": "array",
              "items": {
                "type": "string",
                "example": ["www.bbc.com/sport", "www.bbc.co.uk/sport"]
              }
            }
          },
          "description": "Lists conditions that must not be met for this configuration to be applied to the template."
        }
      },
      "patternProperties": {
        "^[a-zA-Z0-9-]+$": {
          "oneOf": [
            {
              "type": "array",
              "description": "Named for the parameter, and defines what will be done with it. Used when there are multiple possible configurations for the parameter.",
              "items": {
              "$ref": "#/definitions/parameter-config"
            }
          },
            {
              "type": "object",
              "description": "Named for the parameter, and defines what will be done with it. Used when there is only one possible configuration for the parameter.",
              "$ref": "#/definitions/parameter-config"
            }
          ]
        }
      }
    },
    "definitions": {
      "parameter-config": {
        "$schema": "http://json-schema.org/draft-07/schema#",
        "$id": "parameter-config",
        "type": "object",
        "properties": {
          "includes": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
              "type": "object",
              "properties": {
                "key": {
                  "type": "string",
                  "example": ["url"]
                },
                "value": {
                  "type": "array",
                  "items": {
                    "type": "string",
                    "example": ["www.bbc.com", "www.bbc.co.uk"]
                  }
                }
              }
            },
            "description": "Lists conditions required to be met for this configuration to be applied to the parameter."
          },
          "excludes": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
              "type": "object",
              "properties": {
                "key": {
                "type": "string",
                "example": ["url"]
                },
                "value": {
                  "type": "array",
                  "items": {
                    "type": "string",
                    "example": ["www.bbc.com/sport", "www.bbc.co.uk/sport"]
                  }
                }
              }
            },
            "description": "Lists conditions that must not be met for this configuration to be applied to the parameter."
          },
          "link": {
            "type": "string",
            "description": "Where the parameter should normally link to",
            "example": ["ABC News (Australia)"]
          },
          "wikitext": {
            "type": "string",
            "description": "What the wikitext of the parameter should normally be",
            "example": ["ABC News"]
          },
          "blacklist": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
              "type": "string",
              "example": ["ABC News (United States)", "ABC News"]
            },
            "description": "Links that will always be removed"
          },
          "greylist": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
              "type": "string",
              "example": ["Australian Broadcasting Corporation"]
            },
            "description": "Links that will only be removed when already editing the page. Used to prevent edits that would only fix issues we consider minor."
          },
          "whitelist": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
              "type": "string",
              "example": ["The Sunday Telegraph (Sydney)"]
            },
            "description": "Links that will never be removed. Used when we believe editors may have deliberately provided a non-standard value that we wish to respect."
          },
          "fixRedirects": {
            "type": "string",
            "enum": ["always", "onEdit", "never"],
            "default": "onEdit",
            "description": "Specifies when we will replace redirects to the provided link with the provided link."
          },
          "fixDisplay": {
            "type": "string",
            "enum": ["always", "onEdit", "never"],
            "default": "onEdit",
            "description": "Specifies when we will replace the currently displayed text with the displayed version of the provided Wikitext."
          },
          "fixOthers": {
            "type": "string",
            "enum": ["always", "onEdit", "never"],
            "default": "always",
            "description": "Specifies when we will replace links to pages that are neither redirects to the link nor on the provided lists."
          },
          "fixMissing": {
            "type": "string",
            "enum": ["always", "onEdit", "never"],
            "default": "onEdit",
            "description": "Specifies when we will add a missing value"
          },
          "priority": {
            "type": "integer",
            "default": 5,
            "description": "Provides a tie-breaker when multiple array objects meet the inclusion or exclusion criteria. Higher value is preferred. It is unspecified which configuration object is used when both have the same priority level.",
            "minimum": 1
          }
        }
      }
    }
  }
}

What it does to these parameters depends on the configuration. For example:

"work": 
  {
    "link": "ABC News (Australia)",
    "wikitext": "ABC News",
    "blacklist": ["ABC News (United States)", "ABC News"],
    "greylist": ["Australian Broadcasting Corporation"],
    "fixMissing": "onEdit",
    "fixRedirects": "onEdit",
    "fixOthers": "always"
  }

Will ensure that the "work" parameter only links to ABC News (Australia). When it finds a link to a source other than ABC News (Australia), its redirects, or Australian Broadcasting Corporation, it will edit the article to correct that link.

When it encounters a redirect, or Australian Broadcasting Corporation, or a missing value, it will only correct those if it is already editing the article.

If we change "fixMissing" to "always", it would edit the article to insert the value.

"agency":
   {
     "includes":
     [
       {
         "key": "agency",
         "value": ["Reuters"]
       }
     ],
     "remove": "onEdit"
   }

Will remove the agency field when it contains "Reuters". This is used to correct when the field has been incorrectly filled with the name of the publisher or work.

"department":
  [
    {
      "includes": 
      [
        {
          "key": "url",
          "value": ["reuters.com/world/"]
        }
      ],
      "wikitext": "World"
    },
    {
      "includes": 
      [
        {
          "key": "url",
          "value": ["reuters.com/world/reuters-next/"]
        }
      ],
      "wikitext": "Reuters Next",
      "priority": 6
    },
    {
      "includes": 
      [
        {
          "key": "url",
          "value": ["reuters.com/business/"]
        }
      ],
      "wikitext": "Business"
    }
  ]

This fills in the department field based on the source url. If none of these are met then the department field is not filled.

The current configuration file will do the following:

The intent is that the community will expand the configuration file, increasing the number of citations it can fix.

Example of template replacements
Article Current Replacement
History of Apple Inc. {{Cite news |access-date=June 27, 2011 |archive-date=November 17, 2017 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171117174448/http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/091797apple.html |date=September 17, 1997 |title=Apple Formally Names Jobs as Interim Chief |url=https://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/091797apple.html |url-status=live |work=The New York Times}} {{cite news |date=September 17, 1997 |title=Apple Formally Names Jobs as Interim Chief |url=https://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/091797apple.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live |work=[[The New York Times]] |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171117174448/http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/091797apple.html |archive-date=November 17, 2017 |access-date=June 27, 2011}}
History of Apple Inc. {{Cite news |access-date=July 12, 2019 |archive-date=January 12, 2022 |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220112/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11507451/Apple-celebrates-39th-year-on-April-1.html |date=April 1, 2015 |first=Rhiannon |last=Williams |title=Apple celebrates 39th year on April 1 |url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11507451/Apple-celebrates-39th-year-on-April-1.html |url-access=subscription |url-status=live |work=[[The Daily Telegraph|The Telegraph]]}} {{cite news |last1=Williams |first1=Rhiannon |date=April 1, 2015 |title=Apple celebrates 39th year on April 1 |url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11507451/Apple-celebrates-39th-year-on-April-1.html |url-access=subscription |url-status=live |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |publisher=[[Telegraph Media Group]] |publication-place=London, United Kingdom |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20220112/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11507451/Apple-celebrates-39th-year-on-April-1.html |archive-date=January 12, 2022 |access-date=July 12, 2019}}
History of Apple Inc. {{Cite news |access-date=March 16, 2020 |archive-date=May 21, 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200521133837/https://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/13/business/big-ibm-s-little-computer.html |date=August 13, 1981 |first=Andrew |issn=0362-4331 |language=en-US |last=Pollack |page=D1 |title=Big I.B.M.'s Little Computer |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/13/business/big-ibm-s-little-computer.html |url-status=live |work=The New York Times}} {{cite news |last1=Pollack |first1=Andrew |date=August 13, 1981 |title=Big I.B.M.'s Little Computer |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/13/business/big-ibm-s-little-computer.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live |work=[[The New York Times]] |page=D1 |language=en-US |issn=0362-4331 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200521133837/https://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/13/business/big-ibm-s-little-computer.html |archive-date=May 21, 2020 |access-date=March 16, 2020}}
History of Apple Inc. {{Cite news |access-date=October 19, 2013 |archive-date=December 5, 2010 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101205224753/http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=technology&res=9803E7D61038F936A3575BC0A963948260 |date=August 5, 1985 |first=David E. |last=Sanger |title=Philip Estridge Dies in Jet Crash; Guided IBM Personal Computer |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/05/us/philip-estridge-dies-in-jet-crash-guided-ibm-personal-computer.html |url-status=live |work=The New York Times}} {{cite news |last1=Sanger |first1=David E. |date=August 5, 1985 |title=Philip Estridge Dies in Jet Crash; Guided IBM Personal Computer |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/05/us/philip-estridge-dies-in-jet-crash-guided-ibm-personal-computer.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live |work=[[The New York Times]] |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20101205224753/http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=technology&res=9803E7D61038F936A3575BC0A963948260 |archive-date=December 5, 2010 |access-date=October 19, 2013}}
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LaMDA {{Cite news |access-date=February 6, 2023 |archive-date=January 20, 2023 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230120081118/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/technology/google-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence.html |date=January 20, 2023 |first=Nico |issn=0362-4331 |last=Grant |newspaper=[[The New York Times]] |title=Google Calls In Help From Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. Fight |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/technology/google-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live}} {{cite news |last1=Grant |first1=Nico |date=January 20, 2023 |title=Google Calls In Help From Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. Fight |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/technology/google-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live |work=[[The New York Times]] |issn=0362-4331 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230120081118/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/20/technology/google-chatgpt-artificial-intelligence.html |archive-date=January 20, 2023 |access-date=February 6, 2023}}
LaMDA {{Cite news |access-date=March 21, 2023 |archive-date=March 21, 2023 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230321140334/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/technology/google-bard-chatbot.html |date=March 21, 2023 |first1=Nico |issn=0362-4331 |last1=Grant |newspaper=[[The New York Times]] |title=Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Create A.I. Chatbots |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/technology/google-bard-chatbot.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live}} {{cite news |last1=Grant |first1=Nico |date=March 21, 2023 |title=Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Create A.I. Chatbots |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/technology/google-bard-chatbot.html |url-access=limited |url-status=live |work=[[The New York Times]] |issn=0362-4331 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230321140334/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/21/technology/google-bard-chatbot.html |archive-date=March 21, 2023 |access-date=March 21, 2023}}
Thomas Mott Osborne {{Cite news |accessdate=2011-05-04 |date=November 20, 1914 |newspaper=[[New York Times]] |quote=Thomas Mott Osborne of Auburn, N.Y., retired manufacturer, world traveler, lecturer, writer, and prison reformer, has accepted the offer of John B. Riley, State Superintendent of Prisons, of the post of the Warden of Sing Sing Prison. He will take office on Dec. 1, and will relieve ex-Judge George S. Weed, who was temporarily assigned to Sing Sing, when Warden Thomas J. McCormick was ousted on Oct. 30 as the result of the Sullivan scandal. ... |title=T. M. Osborne To Be Warden At Sing Sing. Noted Prison Reformer Will Take Office on Dec. 1. Approved by Glynn and Whitman. Big Shake-Up Predicted. Warden-Elect Disapproves of Capital Punishment, but Would Make Executions 'Public Exhibitions |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1914/11/20/archives/tm-osborne-to-be-warden-at-sing-sing-noted-prison-reformer-will.html}} {{cite news |date=November 20, 1914 |title=T. M. Osborne To Be Warden At Sing Sing. Noted Prison Reformer Will Take Office on Dec. 1. Approved by Glynn and Whitman. Big Shake-Up Predicted. Warden-Elect Disapproves of Capital Punishment, but Would Make Executions 'Public Exhibitions |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1914/11/20/archives/tm-osborne-to-be-warden-at-sing-sing-noted-prison-reformer-will.html |url-access=limited |work=[[The New York Times]] |access-date=2011-05-04 |quote=Thomas Mott Osborne of Auburn, N.Y., retired manufacturer, world traveler, lecturer, writer, and prison reformer, has accepted the offer of John B. Riley, State Superintendent of Prisons, of the post of the Warden of Sing Sing Prison. He will take office on Dec. 1, and will relieve ex-Judge George S. Weed, who was temporarily assigned to Sing Sing, when Warden Thomas J. McCormick was ousted on Oct. 30 as the result of the Sullivan scandal. ...}}
Thomas Mott Osborne {{Cite news |accessdate=2011-05-04 |date=October 21, 1926 |newspaper=[[Associated Press]] in the [[New York Times]] |quote=Thomas Mott Osborne, noted prison reform advocate and former Warden of Sing Sing Prison, dropped dead on the street here tonight. ... |title=T. Mott Osborne, Reformer, is Dead. Body of Former Warden of Sing Sing, Heart Victim, Found in Auburn (N.Y.) Street. He Championed Prisoners. After Occupying Cell Himself, He Began Reform Drive. First Was Active in Politics |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1926/10/21/archives/t-mott-osborne-reformer-is-dead-body-of-former-warden-of-sing-sing.html}} {{cite news |date=October 21, 1926 |title=T. Mott Osborne, Reformer, is Dead. Body of Former Warden of Sing Sing, Heart Victim, Found in Auburn (N.Y.) Street. He Championed Prisoners. After Occupying Cell Himself, He Began Reform Drive. First Was Active in Politics |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1926/10/21/archives/t-mott-osborne-reformer-is-dead-body-of-former-warden-of-sing-sing.html |url-access=limited |work=[[The New York Times]] |access-date=2011-05-04 |quote=Thomas Mott Osborne, noted prison reform advocate and former Warden of Sing Sing Prison, dropped dead on the street here tonight. ...}}


When editing a template, to improve readability it will also apply a consistent format and naming convention. This involves converting parameters away from aliases to their primary values, and placing the parameters into the following order:

Order
  1. author, last1, or vauthors
  2. first1
  3. author-link1
  4. last2
  5. first2
  6. author-link2
  7. lastN
  8. firstN
  9. author-linkN
  10. display-authors
  11. author-mask
  12. collaboration
  13. editor, editor1-last, or veditors
  14. editor1-first
  15. editor1-link
  16. editor2-last
  17. editor2-first
  18. editor2-link
  19. editorN-last
  20. editorN-first
  21. editorN-link
  22. display-editors
  23. editor-mask
  24. translator1-last or vtranslator
  25. translator1-first
  26. translator1-link
  27. translator2-last
  28. translator2-first
  29. translator2-link
  30. translatorN-last
  31. translatorN-first
  32. translatorN-link
  33. display-translators
  34. translator-mask
  35. interviewer1-last or vinterviewer
  36. interviewer1-first
  37. interviewer1-link
  38. interviewer2-last
  39. interviewer2-first
  40. interviewer2-link
  41. interviewerN-last
  42. interviewerN-first
  43. interviewerN-link
  44. display-interviewers
  45. subject1-last or vsubject
  46. subject1-first
  47. subject1-link
  48. subject2-last
  49. subject2-first
  50. subject2-link
  51. subjectN-last
  52. subjectN-first
  53. subjectN-link
  54. display-subjects
  55. subject-mask
  56. others
  57. display-contributors
  58. contributor-mask
  59. name-list-style
  60. date
  61. year
  62. orig-date
  63. df
  64. title
  65. script-title
  66. trans-title
  67. title-link
  68. url, article-url, chapter-url, contribution-url, entry-url, map-url, or section-url
  69. url-access, article-url-access, chapter-url-access, contribution-url-access, entry-url-access, map-url-access, or section-url-access
  70. url-status
  71. format
  72. work
  73. script-work
  74. trans-work
  75. page
  76. pages
  77. at
  78. department
  79. type
  80. series
  81. language
  82. volume
  83. issue
  84. others
  85. edition
  86. location
  87. publisher
  88. publication-date
  89. publication-place
  90. agency
  91. no-pp
  92. arxiv
  93. asin
  94. bibcode
  95. bibcode-access
  96. doi
  97. doi-access
  98. doi-broken-date
  99. hdl
  100. hdl-access
  101. isbn
  102. issn
  103. jfm
  104. jstor
  105. jstor-access
  106. lccn
  107. mr
  108. oclc
  109. ol
  110. ol-access
  111. osti
  112. osti-access
  113. pmc
  114. pmc-embargo-date
  115. pmid
  116. rfc
  117. ssrn
  118. ssrn-access
  119. s2cid
  120. s2cid-access
  121. zbl
  122. id
  123. archive-url
  124. archive-date
  125. archive-format
  126. access-date
  127. via
  128. quote
  129. trans-quote
  130. postscript
  131. ref
  132. mode
  133. postscript

Discussion

I'd prefer if this bot (and every bot) stopped short of reordering template parameters. Doing a full reorganisation on any template edited will make it much more difficult to tell what changes have been made when reviewing diffs. Folly Mox (talk) 09:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can trust our bots that much, I'd say. And it shouldn't be much of a problem if you compare the diffs in visual diff mode, try here. In my experience, it's much easier for a bot (program) to reassemble a template in some predefined order. Having data in the order of final appearance does help with readability (BilledMammal: that'd be url?, author(s) data, date, title…).Ponor (talk) 06:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ponor: Currently, author(s) data, date, title, url - the full order can be seen in the final collapsed box. However, that is easy to change.
It wouldn't be difficult to put it back in the original order (although it would result in new fields being dumped at the end), but personally I believe it is better to reorganize it, as while it makes it harder for editors using non-visual viewer to identify the changes, it easier for editors to parse the template going forward. BilledMammal (talk) 23:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support putting the params in some canonical order, my only question is which one it should be. VisualEditor (TemplateData), IAbot, maybe even reFill, probaly use the same one ("Full parameter set in horizontal format" from {{Cite web}}?), which is what I'd use as well. Up to you, though. Ponor (talk) 14:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I started with the full parameter set from Template:Cite news, but quickly found that "full parameter set" doesn’t actually mean "full parameter set".
I see the two templates differ in where to put the URL; I think Cite news' method is better, as the URL is difficult to read so better to put that at the end. BilledMammal (talk) 14:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The order is probably from the order used by TemplateData as that is where ProveIt takes its order from. Gonnym (talk) 11:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think consensus would need to be established for this at other venues. The part of the proposal regarding adding links where none exist has the potential to conflict with WP:WHENINROME. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That aspect doesn’t need to be enabled; exactly how this functions depends entirely on the configuration file.
However, that aspect isn’t covered by WP:WHENINROME, which says If all or most of the citations in an article consist of bare URLs, or otherwise fail to provide needed bibliographic data – such as the name of the source, the title of the article or web page consulted, the author (if known), the publication date (if known), and the page numbers (where relevant) – then that would not count as a "consistent citation style" and can be changed freely to insert such data.
Emphasis mine. BilledMammal (talk) 18:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the part of WHENINROME that states: Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change. For example, if an article has proper citation formatting, but none of the publication titles are wikilinked, or only the first instance is, running this bot to add wikilinks to each publication parameter would run afoul of WHENINROME. In any event, given that we have a reasonable disagreement on this point, I think consensus would be needed to implement that part of the bot. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I misunderstood. The configuration file can be updated to not replace unlinked, but otherwise correct, source names, if such behaviour is desirable.
With that said, I’m not sure whether the decision to Wikilink or not falls under WP:WHENINROME, as such a decision appears to go beyond referencing style and instead fall under MOS:LINK, specifically MOS:UL, which says Proper names that are likely to be unfamiliar to readers - which would include virtually all source names, as few have worldwide recognition - should be linked. BilledMammal (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I broadly construe WHENINROME to avoid referencing conflicts since the MOS is a contentious topic. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't necessarily have an issue with the rest of what the bot would do. Also, I would like to see a process for establishing consensus for what parameters should be included for each ref. For example, why doesn't The Guardian (Swan Hill) have a publication-place parameter? Why use publisher instead of publication-place for The Daily Telegraph(s)? These are things that might need to be worked out. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:31, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The omissions for Swan Hill Guardian are primarily because I wanted an example of a minimally completed source, to demonstrate the tools range.
(The Daily Telegraph actually uses both)
The process I was planning was standard WP:CONSENSUS, with the requirement that consensus be obtained prior to changing the primary configuration file. Or do you think something more involved is needed? BilledMammal (talk) 18:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think even a rough consensus would be fine for the contents of the configuration file. I'd like to see it advertised at Wikipedia talk:Citing sources, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, and potentially other venues before this bot goes active. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:58, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea; I think WP:VPR would also be a good location, although I’ll wait till BAG gives preliminary approval before taking it to the wider community. BilledMammal (talk) 19:01, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, have been meaning to tag this with Needs wider discussion. but have had other things to deal with; I would like to see a rough consensus that this is a desired bot task. Primefac (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've opened a discussion at the Village Pump. BilledMammal (talk) 09:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC) Link expanded to include section, no other change made. Primefac (talk) 20:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bots in a trial period

Operator: Usernamekiran (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 13:04, Saturday, September 7, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: go through Category:Articles missing coordinates with coordinates on Wikidata, add the coordinates from wikidata to enwiki article, and remove the {{coord missing}} template

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): pywikibot

Source code available: not yet, soon on github, pywikibot script

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): requested at WP:BOTREQ, permalink

Edit period(s): once a month

Estimated number of pages affected: around 19,000 in the first run, then as they come in

Namespace(s): mainspace

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): no

Function details: the bot goes through Category:Articles missing coordinates with coordinates on Wikidata, for each article: it reads the coordinates from the wikidata QID of that particular article. adds it to the infobox with | coordinates = parameter. If infobox is not present, then it adds to the bottom on the appropriate location, using {{coord}} template. If the coordinates are added successfully, then the bot removes {{coords_missing}} template. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Operator: DreamRimmer (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 11:41, Sunday, September 15, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available:

Function overview: Change the priority from 'mid' and 'low' to 'NA' for redirects in Category:Redirect-Class medicine articles.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Requested at Wikipedia:Bot requests#WikiProject ratings change

Edit period(s): one-time

Estimated number of pages affected: 1258

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Assessment#Quality assessment, all redirects for Template:WikiProject Medicine should be tagged with 'NA' priority. This bot will process the 1258 redirects currently tagged with 'mid' and 'low' priority and change their priority to 'NA'.

Discussion

Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete.SD0001 (talk) 14:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hold on a second. Why isn't this being handled within the template? Not sure if it used to be handled earlier. That would be preferable to a bot editing thousands of pages. @MSGJ: perhaps you can comment on this? – SD0001 (talk) 14:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at Talk:Acne scarring,
  • I rated the article as Start/Mid in 2008.
  • The article was redirected in 2009. The talk page was never updated to reflect this.
  • Cewbot reformatted the WikiProject template in January 2024,[1] but it did not correct the error in quality rating (=Start-class).
I wonder whether the |class=Start overrides the redirect autodetection. It is possible that different groups have differing preferences for priority/importance on redirects. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes we can easily do this automatically in the template. I don't think there are any projects rating redirects by importance, but if it was ever needed, those projects can easily use a custom importance mask. I will put a proposal on Module talk:WikiProject banner — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 On hold. Pending outcome of Module talk:WikiProject banner#Override importance to NA on non-articles. – SD0001 (talk) 12:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: Sohom Datta (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 20:03, Tuesday, July 16, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available: https://github.com/sohomdatta1/npp-notifier-bot

Function overview: Notify previous reviewers of a article at AFD about the nomination

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Initial discussions on NPP Discord + previous BRFAs surrounding AFD notifications

Edit period(s): Continuous

Estimated number of pages affected: 1-2 per day (guessimate?)

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): No, on enwiki, yes, for other wikis on other tasks

Function details:

  • Use the eventstream API to listen for new AfDs
  • Extract page name by parsing the AfD wikitext
  • Identify previous reviewers of page at AFD
  • Notify said reviewers on their talk pages with a customised version of the existing AfD notification message

Discussion

  • I like this concept in general. I tried to make a user script that does this (User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/WatchlistAFD.js#L-89--L-105), but it doesn't work (I probably need to rewrite it to use MutationObserver). Would this bot be automatic for everyone, or opt in? Opt in may be better and easier to move forward in a BRFA. If not opt in, may want to start a poll somewhere to make sure there's some support for "on by default". –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:58, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it would be better to be on by default with the option for reviewers to disable. (t · c) buidhe 14:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah yes. "Opt out" might be a good way to describe this third option. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - seems like a good idea. I've reviewed several articles that I've tagged for notability or other concerns, only to just happen to notice them by chance a few days later get AfD'ed by someone else. A bot seems like a good idea, and I can't see a downside. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is the sort of thing that would be really good for some people (e.g., new/infrequent reviewers) and really frustrating for others (e.g., people who have reviewed tens of thousands of articles). If it does end up being opt-out, each message needs to have very clear instructions on how to opt out. It would also be worth thinking about a time limit: most people aren't going to get any value out of hearing about an article they reviewed a decade ago. Maybe a year or two would be a good threshold. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The PREVIOUS_NOTIF regex should also account for notifications left via page curation tool ("Deletion discussion about xxx"). The notification also needs to be skipped if the previous reviewer themself is nominating. In addition, I would suggest adding a delay of at least several minutes instead of acting immediately on AfD creation – as it can lead to race conditions where Twinkle/PageTriage and this bot simultaneously deliver notifications to the same user. – SD0001 (talk) 13:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • {{Operator assistance needed}} Thoughts on the above comments/suggestions? Also, do you have the notice ready to go or is that still in the works? If it's ready, please link to it (or copy it here if it's hard-coded elsewhere). Primefac (talk) 12:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Primefac I've implemented a few of the suggestions, I've reworked the code to exclude pages containing {{User:SodiumBot/NoNPPDelivery}}, which should serve as a opt out mechanism :) I've also reworked the code to include SD0001's suggestion of adding a significant delay by making the bot wait at least a hour and also added modified the regex to account for the messages sent by PageTriage.
    Wrt to Extraordinary Writ's suggestions, I have restricted the lookup to the last 3 years as well and created a draft User:SodiumBot/ReviewerAfdNotification which has instructions on how to opt out. Sohom (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I'll leave this open for a few days for comment before going to trial. Primefac (talk) 16:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Please make sure this BRFA is linked in the edit summary. Primefac (talk) 23:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I ran across Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SDZeroBot 6 today, which is a very similar task, and uses an "opt out" strategy. This suggests that the community may be OK with having AFD notifications be on by default for a bot task like this. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: DannyS712 (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 00:02, Thursday, May 9, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): JavaScript

Source code available: TBD

Function overview: Automatically mark redirects created by Wikipedia:Page movers as part of a page move as "patrolled" in the new page patrol / page curation system

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers/Archive 51#Idea to reduce redirect backlog

Edit period(s): Continuous

Estimated number of pages affected: Lots

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: The code will be added to my current redirect patrolling bot rules (see User:DannyS712 bot III/rules for the current rules) once I write it. You can see the implementation I intend to use is to patrol all redirects based on the query below.

If possible, I'd like to request speedy approval and/or a time-based trial, so that I don't need to add a whole bunch of logic to the bot to count how many redirects have already been patrolled in the trial.

Query to run
SELECT
	page_id AS 'pageid',
	page_title AS 'title',
	ptrpt_value AS 'target',
	actor_name AS 'creator'
FROM
	page
	JOIN pagetriage_page ON page_id = ptrp_page_id
	JOIN pagetriage_page_tags ON ptrp_page_id = ptrpt_page_id
	JOIN revision rv ON page_latest = rev_id
	JOIN actor ON rev_actor = actor_id
	JOIN user_groups ON actor_user = ug_user
WHERE
	ptrp_reviewed = 0
	AND ptrpt_tag_id = 9 # Snippet
	AND page_namespace = 0
	AND page_is_redirect = 1
	AND EXISTS (
		# Only 1 revision based on rev_count page triage tag
		SELECT 1
		FROM pagetriage_page_tags tags2
		WHERE tags2.ptrpt_page_id = page_id
		AND tags2.ptrpt_tag_id = 7
		AND tags2.ptrpt_value = 1
	)
	AND EXISTS (
		# Move log from the same time by the same person
		SELECT 1
		FROM logging_logindex lgl2
		WHERE log_namespace = page_namespace
		AND log_title = page_title
		AND log_timestamp = rev_timestamp
		AND log_actor = rev_actor
		AND log_type = 'move'
		AND log_action = 'move'
	)
	AND ug_group = 'extendedmover'

LIMIT 100;

Discussion

Approved for trial (100 edits or 14 days, whichever happens first). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC) count updated. Primefac (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ProcrastinatingReader the bot reports to User:DannyS712 bot III/Redirects.json every 15 minutes with the redirects that it patrols and why - a 14 day trial will be 1344 entries to scan through, and I would expect that almost all of the relevant entries would be on the first run (for any existing backlog) - would a shorter trial be okay? Like a day (or even less)? --DannyS712 (talk) 16:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
( Peanut gallery comment) I am BOLDly adding {{BAG assistance needed}}: {{BAG assistance needed}} HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've tweaked the trial numbers. Primefac (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason that a single day trial (as requested by Danny) would be a Bad Thing? Of course, I am not a bot op, so there might be something I am unaware of :) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also wondering that - also the "whichever happens first" means I would still need to add some logic to count how many redirects have been patrolled in the trial already --DannyS712 (talk) 12:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{bag assistance needed}} (apologies for using this a lot as of late...) HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 22:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Though I cannot speak on his behalf, I imagine a concern that @Primefac: may have had would be that the bot might be done within a day. What are your thoughts, Primefac? Provided that it won't actually complete within a day, I don't see an issue with a 1 day trial. cc @DannyS712: --TheSandDoctor Talk 04:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had no concerns; I thought I was giving the botop what they wanted. They said 14 days was too long and there would be too many actions to look at. I threw out 100 as our standard number (which does happen to be "about a day's worth" when you do the maths) because on these "not sure how many per day" requests it might be only a few dozen over 14 days. Danny is a trusted botop and while it needs to go through a trial to make sure everything is working, we are not going to begrudge a handful of edits on either side of 100 if the task can be shown to be operating within expected parameters. So sure, run it for a day and see where you end up. Primefac (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, HouseBlaster, using the assistance template twice in ten days is a bit excessive. Primefac (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: did you see the above? TheSandDoctor Talk 22:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, I was out of town for a while but am back and will do bot stuff again soon --DannyS712 (talk) 02:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) @DannyS712: is there still interest in pursuing this task? or are you happy to mark this as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712 seems to be away at the moment. I think we can safely mark this as inactive until they return or if the stand-in botop is willing to take over this item. pinging @DreamRimmer for attention. – robertsky (talk) 02:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Out of 414 page movers, about 300 are either listed for redirect autopatrol or already have autopatrolled rights. Since this query shows no backlog, I think if we see a backlog of 100 or more, I will go ahead and add this functionality. For now, let's wait a little longer for Danny. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 01:57, Wednesday, March 22, 2023 (UTC)

Function overview: Mark unassessed stub articles as stubs

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Automatic

Programming language(s): C#

Source code available: Not yet

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 84#Stub assessments with ORES

Edit period(s): daily

Estimated number of pages affected: < 100 per day

Namespace(s): Talk

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Go through Category:Unassessed articles (only deals with articles already tagged as belonging to a project). If an unassessed article is rated as a stub by ORES, tag the article as a stub. Example

Discussion

{{BAG assistance needed}} This has been waiting for over 2 months since the end of the trial, and over 4 months since the creation of the request. Given the concerns expressed that the bot operator has since fixed, an extended trial may be a good idea here. EggRoll97 (talk) 05:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I have been very busy. Should I run the new Bot again with a few more edits? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for extended trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete.SD0001 (talk) 19:10, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{Operator assistance needed}} It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? Primefac (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I wrote the bot using my C# API, and due to a necessary upgrade here, my dotnet environment got ahead of the one on the grid. I could neither build locally and run on the grid nor on build on the grid. (I could have run the trial locally but would not have been able to deploy to production.) There is currently a push to move bots onto Kubernetes containers, but there was no dotnet build pack available. The heroes on Toolforge have now provided one for dotnet, and I will be testing it when I return from vacation next week. If all goes well I will finally be able to deploy the bot and run the trial at last. See phab:T311466 for details. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:54, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) Primefac (talk) 20:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Work was done in January and some changes made on Toolforge. Will resume the trial run when I get a chance. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hawkeye7: any update on this? If it's a bit of a medium-term item and not actively worked on, are you happy to mark this BRFA as withdrawn for the time being? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My technical problems have been resolved. A new trial run will be conducted this week. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[5][6][7][8][9][10] etc Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One important change: Liftwing is being used instead of ORES now. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: Frostly (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 02:55, Thursday, March 2, 2023 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s):

Source code available:

Function overview: Replace AMP links in citations

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): BOTREQ, Village Pump

Edit period(s): Weekly

Estimated number of pages affected: Unknown, estimated to be in the range of hundreds of thousands

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: Using the AmputatorBot API, replaces AMP links with canonical equivalents. This task runs on all pages with citation templates which have URL parameters (e.g. {{cite news}}, {{cite web}}, etc).

Discussion

Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Primefac (talk) 10:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I'm working on this but it may take some time. EpicPupper (talk) 23:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Been a bit busy IRL, but will get to this soon. Frostly (talk) 20:33, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
soon — Frostly (talk) 20:33, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

{{Operator assistance needed}} It has been more than a month since the last post, is this trial still ongoing? Primefac (talk) 13:26, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac, my apologies, this flew off my radar. I'll work on setting up the bot on Toolforge this month and should have the results soon. — Frostly (talk) 06:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've made progress on uploading to Toolforge; just fixing a few bugs. — Frostly (talk) 03:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's been a few issues with the API that have been difficult to tackle; I think pivoting to self-hosting the API backend on Toolforge is a good solution (working on that this month). — Frostly (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Finishing up final revisions to the code! — Frostly (talk) 18:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
about time! Hehe —usernamekiran (talk) 16:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Frostly that is awesome! I actually was about to start this process (Wikipedia:Bot_requests#de-AMP_bot) and I am glad you already did. And it seems you are almost done. Is there a way I can find the source code or what any lingering issues there might be? Also, did you end up using the AmputatorBot API, another API, or your own implementation? Osalbahr (talk) 00:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bots that have completed the trial period

Operator: DreamRimmer (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 04:43, Wednesday, September 18, 2024 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): Python

Source code available:

Function overview: Notify creators of drafts that the page hasn't been edited in at least 5 months, and therefore the page may be deleted soon. Backup for FireflyBot Task 11.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#User:FireflyBot

Edit period(s): Every 4 hours

Estimated number of pages affected: ~100 per day

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: This bot will notify the creators of drafts that the page hasn't been edited in at least 5 months and may therefore be deleted soon. It is a backup for FireflyBot Task 11. Firefly has not edited since 29 July 2024, and their bot task, which notifies creators of drafts that the page hasn't been edited in at least 5 months, stopped on 3 September 2024. Liz left them a message on their talk page and sent an email but has not received any response. I also noticed that Firefly's activity has been very low over the past year, so I want to use my bot, BaranBOT, as a backup until Firefly restarts their bot task. I will use the same script with the same functionality. I will stop this bot once Firefly restarts theirs and will use it only when their bot is down.

Discussion

I think this will be useful to run as a permanent backup, as the task is critical and the existing bots have had a poor track record over the years. FireflyBot also doesn't filter out bot edits while considering the last edit dates (bot edits don't affect G13 eligibility).
Assuming FireflyBot sends the notification 5 months after the last edit, this bot could run at 5 months + 3 days (say), and send the notification if FireflyBot didn't already do it. – SD0001 (talk) 17:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Firefly bot seems to be back up; can we still test this while it is running? Primefac (talk) 13:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac: There are some database permission-related issues, but they will not affect anything for now, and I will take care of them when Firefly comes online. For now, we can test this bot without any problems if you can approve a trial. The FireflyBot runs at the 1st minute of each UTC hour, so for the trial, I can run my bot between the 5th to the 55th minutes of a UTC hour. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approved for trial. Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Will probably be worth coordinating with Firefly to avoid duplicate posts being made on user talk pages. Primefac (talk) 18:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac: Can we make this trial time-based, maybe for just one hour/day? When the bot runs, it goes through a full cycle and sends notifications for all drafts that meet the criteria at that time. This makes it tough to stop after just five edits. For instance, if there are 10 drafts that qualify in the first run, it will notify for all of them, and we can't just stop after notifying five. If we do stop it (using Ctrl + C), it will only make edits but won't record anything in the database. The first run probably won't have many pages since the FireflyBot is running continuously. Also, I won't be posting any duplicate notifications, and I am already in touch with Firefly. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, makes sense. Primefac (talk) 19:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trial complete. Notified 9 users. Everything worked as intended. I would like to improve its functionality in the future. For example, the current bot only notifies about a draft once, and if that draft becomes eligible for a notification again in the future, it will not send another notification. I plan to fix this so that the bot can notify again if the same draft meets the notification criteria in the future. I am not going to make any changes for now and will post on the relevant talk pages before making any modifications, and will file a new BRFA if needed. For now, I will work on filtering out bot edits and run it as SD0001 suggested. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:27, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Operator: Trappist the monk (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 14:41, Monday, October 7, 2024 (UTC)

Function overview: replace transclusions of {{lang-??}} templates (and their redirects) with the single, parameterized, {{langx}} template. Most of the templates to be replaced are listed at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 September 27/lang-?? templates (there may yet be others discovered along the way).

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic

Programming language(s): awb/c#

Source code available: User:Monkbot/task 20: Replace lang-xx templates

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 September 27 § Replace and delete lang-?? templates

Edit period(s): continuous til done

Estimated number of pages affected: many upon many. as of this date, the most highly used {{lang-??}} templates are listed in lines 13–75 (permalink) of Module:Transclusion_count/data/L (a page maintained by Ahechtbot/task 6 in support of {{high-use}}). The sum of those numbers, less the amounts for {{lang-rus}}, {{Lang-sr-Cyrl}}, {{Lang-sr-cyr}} (a redirect), {{Lang-sr-cyrl}} (a redirect), and {{lang-zh}} which for various reasons are not included, is 643,000. No doubt there are overlaps that would shrink that number but these are only 60-ish of 1150+ templates. By another metric, tallying the number of transclusions for the templates listed in Category:Lang-x templates{{lang-rus}}, {{language with name}}, and {{spell-nv}} excepted – quarry:query/86855 gives a number of 722,471 pages.

Namespace(s): mainspace now; perhaps other namespaces after all; see Trial complete below

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): yes

Function details: task 20 is described at User:Monkbot/task_20: Replace lang-xx templates

Discussion

Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Primefac (talkcontribs) 16:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trial complete. Nothing unexpected. Contrary to my claim above (now stricken and modified), the bot will edit all namespaces because of WP:REDNOT. Deleting templates (something not done by the bot) will create red-linked templates which WP:REDNOT proscribes. Editing in all namespaces allows editors to delete templates with minimal manual cleanup. Monkbot's contributions 17:13–17:19 13 October 2024

Trappist the monk (talk) 17:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC) added forgotten link to results 20:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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