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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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August 14 | 1 | |
August 20 | 1 | |
August 25 | 2 | |
August 27 | 1 | |
August 28 | 2 | 1 |
August 29 | 1 | |
August 30 | 5 | 2 |
August 31 | 3 | 3 |
September 2 | 3 | 3 |
September 3 | 3 | 1 |
September 4 | 1 | |
September 5 | 2 | |
September 6 | 3 | |
September 7 | 6 | 2 |
September 8 | 2 | |
September 9 | 5 | 2 |
September 10 | 1 | 1 |
September 11 | 2 | |
September 12 | 4 | |
September 13 | 2 | |
September 15 | 7 | 4 |
September 16 | 5 | 2 |
September 17 | 1 | |
September 18 | 6 | 4 |
September 19 | 6 | 4 |
September 20 | 9 | 2 |
September 21 | 4 | 1 |
September 22 | 5 | 3 |
September 23 | 6 | |
September 24 | 6 | 2 |
September 25 | 2 | |
September 26 | 5 | 2 |
September 27 | 7 | 4 |
September 28 | 6 | 4 |
September 29 | 5 | 4 |
September 30 | 8 | 5 |
October 1 | 5 | 2 |
October 2 | 4 | 1 |
October 3 | 9 | 5 |
October 4 | 9 | 3 |
October 5 | 9 | 6 |
October 6 | 8 | 3 |
October 7 | 12 | 9 |
October 8 | 8 | 3 |
October 9 | 12 | 7 |
October 10 | 10 | 3 |
October 11 | 11 | 5 |
October 12 | 6 | 4 |
October 13 | 11 | 2 |
October 14 | 3 | |
October 15 | 7 | |
October 16 | 1 | |
Total | 263 | 109 |
Last updated 07:41, 16 October 2024 UTC Current time is 08:36, 16 October 2024 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators
[edit]If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
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Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers
[edit]Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
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Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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Handy copy sources:
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
{{DYKsubpage
with{{subst:DYKsubpage
, and replace|passed=
with|passed=no
. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on August 14
[edit]Hammond's Hard Lines
... that depending on the edition, a fairy or a gremlin grants wishes to the titular character of Hammond's Hard Lines?
- Source: "Books of the Day: 'Hammond's Hard Lines'". The Liverpool Mercury. 1901-12-12. p. 10. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Newspapers.com. / "Review of Books for Backward Readers". The Slow Learning Child. 3 (3): 173–183. 1957. doi:10.1080/0156655570030308. ISSN 1034-912X. Retrieved 2024-08-20 – via Taylor & Francis Online.
- Reviewed:
Template:Did you know nominations/Takara's TreasureTemplate:Did you know nominations/TenikyTemplate:Did you know nominations/Lesser sign of the cross - Comment: A.K.A. C for Charlie (as a handful online have nicknamed the 1957 version for almost a decade and a half now).
Filler project in light of higher-priority AFC tasks; inspired by this August 2024 filing at the Literature StackExchange, which came up on the parent service's "Hot Network Questons" feed one day during my perusal at GIS.SE (I'm currently engaged in a comeback geofictional project). First of two DYK nominations from yours truly today; stay tuned in a few hours for the other one.
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
- Note that the hook as currently written might possibly not meet WP:DYKFICTION; as such, it will either need to be revised with additional real-world context, or a new hook needs to be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories to feature fantasy in its plot?Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets.
- ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT1b: ... that Hammond's Hard Lines was one of the few school stories by a British author to feature fantasy in its plot?Source: Wotton, Joy; Auchmuty, Rosemary, eds. (2000). "Skelton Kuppord (Pseudonym for Sir John Adams)". The Encyclopaedia of School Stories. Ashgate. p. 211. ISBN 0-7546-0083-1. Retrieved 2024-09-08 – via Google Books Snippets. (Emphasis on the nationality this time; apologies if I didn't sign last time.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- I really have doubts about this angle to be honest. It's a rather exceptional claim and thus needs exceptional sourcing, and I can't imagine that the hook is actually all that accurate, especially when Harry Potter exists. The term "few" in this case is also vague. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- It also has to be noted that the "by a British author" is not supported by the article or quote either, so unless that's resolved then ALT1b fails verification. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- All that's left among my options is a review:
ALT2: ... that The Bookseller viewed Hammond's Hard Lines as "a very diverting amalgam of a fairy tale and an ordinary story of schoolboy life"?Source: "Messrs. Blackie & Son's Books for the Young: Hammond's Hard Lines. By Skelton Kuppord". The Christmas Bookseller. December 1894. p. 11. Retrieved 2024-09-19 – via Google Books. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)- That could work, but this would still need a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1 as currently written is inaccurate: there are countless examples from anime and manga alone, let alone other genres of literature. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
The article is new and long enough, appropriately cited, and free from CV, NPOV issues, etc. However, I think the article overuses square brackets to alter quotes far beyond what's needed for clarity. Per MOS:PMC (No relation), we should be altering quotes as little as possible. In most of the cases in this article it's unnecessary (in the box quote, why add commas that weren't in the original?), and mostly could be written around instead of altering the quote. For example, the quote that has been altered to "In spite of [the] limitations [stemming from the text's simplification,]"
could be rendered as something like The Woman Teacher observed that "the story flows smoothly and is interesting" despite having been simplified"
. This should be corrected before the article runs.
As for the hook, ALT2 is not particularly interesting, in my opinion. It boils down to a mildly positive review that mentions the genre. If we're going to do a quote hook, the Liverpool Post and Mercury review, with its comment about how the book is "dangerously experimental", seems much more hooky, since the average reader will wonder what on earth is dangerous about a milquetoast boys adventure story. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Premeditated Chaos I think you're being overly strict about the quotes. If this was WP:FAC, that would be a valid issue, but DYK doesn't require any WP:MOS compliance. It's good to point out ways the article could be improved, but I don't think it's fair to hold up approval based on criteria beyond what WP:DYKG requires. RoySmith (talk) 01:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- My non-approval was far more about the hook being boring than about the quote issue. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos: Fixed.
- ALT3: ... that a 1920s reviewer considered Hammond's Hard Lines "dangerously experimental ground for boys' fiction"? Source: "Christmas Gift Books: Schools, Sport, and Mystery". Liverpool Post and Mercury. 1924-12-03. p. 13. Retrieved 2024-10-09 – via Newspapers.com. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:39, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think ALT3 is much more likely to attract clicks. Still think the quotes ought to be fixed, but I won't hold up promotion on it. I just looked at your QPQ though and I don't know that it's sufficient - WP:QPQ says it ought to be a "full review", but all that was done at Template:Did you know nominations/Takara's Treasure was to add a tick to another user's review. Do you have any full reviews to substitute? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: Please note that the nomination times out in two days, so please promptly address any remaining concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think ALT3 is much more likely to attract clicks. Still think the quotes ought to be fixed, but I won't hold up promotion on it. I just looked at your QPQ though and I don't know that it's sufficient - WP:QPQ says it ought to be a "full review", but all that was done at Template:Did you know nominations/Takara's Treasure was to add a tick to another user's review. Do you have any full reviews to substitute? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- No response from the nominator regarding the QPQ question, and the nomination is now two months old as of today. Marking for closure per WP:DYKTIMEOUT, without prejudice against it continuing if the QPQ issue is addressed before the nomination is closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Pinging back in after a long, Wi-Fi-less weekend post-Milton. (As a reminder, I'm based in Dover, Florida [in the vicinity of the affected area]; bear with me here, and I hope you understand.) Any concerns left? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 17:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: You need to complete a full QPQ as the one you supplied is not sufficient.--Launchballer 19:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: As now provided above. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Slgrandson, the new one is not better. It's merely a comment. Do you understand that a qualifying WP:QPQ needs to be a full review, as I noted above? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos: New replacement provided. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 21:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Slgrandson, I am genuinely not trying to be obstructive, but your comment there does not address the majority of things that are supposed to be addressed in a full DYK review. You have not addressed newness, length, the nominator's QPQ, or interestingness and length of the hook. You say "GBooks preview firmly checks out, matching the text in the article" but it's not clear whether you're verifying the hook here or just spot checking the source in general. And in point of fact, the hook there doesn't match the article text - the hook says the practice "has been traced back to the 12th century", but the article text says that that academic "traces the origin...to the 11th century". Please expand your review there, such that it properly addresses all aspects that a DYK review should address. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos: New replacement provided. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 21:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Slgrandson, the new one is not better. It's merely a comment. Do you understand that a qualifying WP:QPQ needs to be a full review, as I noted above? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: As now provided above. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: You need to complete a full QPQ as the one you supplied is not sufficient.--Launchballer 19:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 20
[edit]Second Adrian Hasler cabinet
- ... that Aurelia Frick was expelled from the Second Adrian Hasler cabinet in 2019, due to an embezzlement scandal?
TheBritinator (talk) 23:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
- New enough and long enough. QPQ present. AGF on German-language sourcing. Reasonably exciting hook for the subject. Suggestions for promoter: add "of Liechtenstein" after "cabinet" in the hook to provide a geographic clue to readers. Also skeptical if "second" needs to be capitalized in running text. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:14, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Make any minor changes as nessesary. TheBritinator (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheBritinator and Sammi Brie: per WP:DYKHOOKBLP we should avoid unduly focusing on negative aspects of living persons in hooks. I have never been entirely certain what "unduly" means, but I think this falls on the wrong side of the line. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: we could change it to alleged embezzlement scandal or something like that if that would be more suitable. She hasn't been convicted of anything yet, but nevertheless it is a fact she was expelled from government for it. TheBritinator (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's not the point: we try not to focus on negative aspects of living people at DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Then I'm not sure what the point is, it is not like I am making defamatory claims. Would you be able to suggest any alternatives? TheBritinator (talk) 11:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- TheBritinator, the point of BLPDYK is that DYK boils down everything about a subject to a single hooky little phrase. For a BLP subject, this removes everything else about the subject's life and achievements and reduces them to a factoid on the front page one of the most popular places on the internet. If that factoid is negative, it could potentially have reputational effects, and we have a duty to err on the side of caution when it comes to posting things that could affect a living person's actual life. BLPDYK explicitly takes a stricter line than raw BLP does for this reason. Since the bold article is the cabinet and not the politician, I think you could reasonably get away with a hook about the scandal if you didn't name Frick directly. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos: So how about something like ... that a member of the Second Adrian Hasler cabinet was expelled in 2019, due to an embezzlement scandal?
- TheBritinator, the point of BLPDYK is that DYK boils down everything about a subject to a single hooky little phrase. For a BLP subject, this removes everything else about the subject's life and achievements and reduces them to a factoid on the front page one of the most popular places on the internet. If that factoid is negative, it could potentially have reputational effects, and we have a duty to err on the side of caution when it comes to posting things that could affect a living person's actual life. BLPDYK explicitly takes a stricter line than raw BLP does for this reason. Since the bold article is the cabinet and not the politician, I think you could reasonably get away with a hook about the scandal if you didn't name Frick directly. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Then I'm not sure what the point is, it is not like I am making defamatory claims. Would you be able to suggest any alternatives? TheBritinator (talk) 11:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's not the point: we try not to focus on negative aspects of living people at DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: we could change it to alleged embezzlement scandal or something like that if that would be more suitable. She hasn't been convicted of anything yet, but nevertheless it is a fact she was expelled from government for it. TheBritinator (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheBritinator and Sammi Brie: per WP:DYKHOOKBLP we should avoid unduly focusing on negative aspects of living persons in hooks. I have never been entirely certain what "unduly" means, but I think this falls on the wrong side of the line. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Make any minor changes as nessesary. TheBritinator (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Personally I think that would work. AirshipJungleman29, since you were the original objector, any comments? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Just about reasonable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 25
[edit]2024 Ohio Issue 1
- ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
- Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
- ALT1: ... that advocates for Ohio Issue 1, an initiative to stop partisan gerrymandering, sued the Republican-led Ballot Board for a summary that claimed the 2024 initiative would require gerrymandering? Source: see above. On the parties to the lawsuit itself, see: https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/ohio-group-garners-over-700000-signatures-for-ballot-initiative-to-end-gerrymandering/
- ALT2: ... that Ohio Issue 1 was created to end partisan gerrymandering after 5 redistricting maps by the Republican-led legislature were rejected by the Ohio Supreme Court -- and flawed maps were used in 2022? Source: "Courts rejected two congressional maps and five sets of Statehouse maps as gerrymandered. Amid the court disputes, Ohio’s elections were allowed to proceed last year under the flawed maps." https://apnews.com/article/ohio-redistricting-constitutional-amendment-attorney-general-e3e8759ceeabc9538dd4bd49b6c84b52
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I hope the hooks and article are carefully NPOV. Reliable sources usually mention that the legislature and ballot board are Republican-led, since gerrymandering is about partisanship. Fwiw, Issue 1 proponents are described in the press as bipartisan.
ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
- WP:DYKELECT talks about "election candidates", but I think the spirt of the guideline also applies to ballot questions like this. I suggest holding this until after the election. RoySmith (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- No reason not to review it now; if it gets approved, it can be placed in the special occasion section set up for election hooks to run after the November election in the US. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not a review, but not totally sure the hooks are that interesting. Andre🚐 22:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Starting review:
- As noted above, this should be held until after the upcoming elections
- That will in turn require updating wording like
to be voted upon in the November 2024 election
. It would be useful to mark this up with {{Update after}} reminders now, but I'll leave that for somebody else. - Obviously, if we run this after the election, it will need to be updated with the outcome and probably reactions.
- That will in turn require updating wording like
- New enough (created August 25, nominated the next day)
- Long enough
- QPQ exempt
- Earwig calls out lots of text duplication, but it's all properly attributed quotes, so no worries there.
- Since this is a controversial issue, I gave the sources a close look. For the most part, they appear to be WP:RS. I do see a few duplicated sources, which WP:REFILL can help fix, but that's not a DYK criterion.
- The Official arguments section does a good job of hewing to WP:NPOV.
- I am, however, somewhat concerned about the Support section. The large "Yes" box duplicates much of the preceding paragraph, is not balanced by a "No" box, probably violates MOS:EMBED, and is almost certainly incomplete today and at risk of going out of date at any point in the future. I'd drop it.
- I'm also unconvinced that the Polling section is useful and probably violates WP:NPOV since it only lists one poll.
- I pretty much agree with Andrevan about the hooks. Although they all get under the 200 character official limit, they're all excessively wordy, and not very interesting.
- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Self-Ish
- ... that multiple songs on Self-Ish express amnesia caused by recreational drug use?
- ALT1: ... that Self-Ish had frenetic two-hour writing sessions containing screaming because Will Wood was unmedicated? Source: https://nyunews.com/arts/music/2022/04/29/will-wood-interview-in-case-i-make-it/
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article is both new and long enough. No copyright violation. Article is presentable. Both sources are cited, one with one with a local newspaper and a student newspaper. No QPQ necessary. I feel the ALT1 is more interesting. I also think it might make more sense, in the original proposal, for the word "express" to be replaced with the word "portray" or "depict". Overall a solid nomination. RoundSquare (talk) 06:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @RoundSquare and Koopastar: The first hook reads as in-universe (WP:DYKFICTION) and the second hook likely does not meet WP:DYKBLP. Rjjiii (talk) 13:43, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Adding tick so this hopefully gets more eyes. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 27
[edit]Aviation Accidents in Japan Involving U.S. Military and Government Aircraft Post-World War II
- ... that a secret CIA U-2 spy plane crash-landed in Japan in 1959, sparking a Cold War mystery and cover-up, later shot down by the Soviet Air Defence Forces?
- Source: https://books.google.fr/books?id=uOcrDF0y-CAC&pg=PR7&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=snippet&q=Fujisawa&f=false (Click on "page 151")
- Reviewed:
Global Donald (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
- This is just a comment, not a full review. It's not clear to me that this meets WP:NLIST. Has this topic actually been
discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources
? RoySmith (talk) 16:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've sent it to AfD, which means this nomination must go on hold.--Launchballer 13:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Marking nomination as on hold with proper icon; have also adjusted this page to reflect the recent article move (this page itself should not be moved). BlueMoonset (talk) 17:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've sent it to AfD, which means this nomination must go on hold.--Launchballer 13:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 28
[edit]El Eternauta: tercera parte
- ... that El Eternauta: tercera parte kept its creator Héctor Germán Oesterheld as a viewpoint character, even though he was dead?
- Source: Daniel Riera (April 27, 2022). "El Eternauta: la inmortal historieta de Héctor Oesterheld, el guionista desaparecido" [The Eternaut: the immortal comic of Héctor Oesterheld, the disappeared writer] (in Spanish). Big Bang News. Retrieved August 29, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
Looking over this now. Will return with a review shortly... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: Does the above address your concerns? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
*Just a moment, please. Looking over the changes now... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- Thanks for everybody's patience. The lead has been improved. No problems with the plot! The ALT still needs to be tweaked. Again, he was, in all likelihood, dead by the time the comic was published. However, he seems never to have been officially declared dead, only presumed dead. It seems like splitting hairs, but it's the kind of thing other editors may potentially bring up once the hook goes live. So best to address it now by modifying the ALT with the qualifier "probably". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about ALT1: ... that El Eternauta: tercera parte kept its creator Héctor Germán Oesterheld as a viewpoint character, even though he was disappeared?
Articles created/expanded on August 29
[edit]List of oral repositories
- ... that oral repositories are individuals trusted with memorising a society's oral traditions, and have been termed "walking libraries"?
- Reviewed:
Kowal2701 (talk) 16:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 that in indigenous societies people serve as oral repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"? [3]
- ALT2 that in oral cultures people serve as repositories of knowledge, values, and morals, and have been termed "walking libraries"?
- Draft published on 30 August, so this was nominated within required time. Hooks are fine (I think ALT0 is the best). But the problem is that much of the article is unreferenced. While only one sentence of prose needs a citation, half if not more entries in the tables do not have citations. I am also confused why for some rows, the citations are in different columns. Ex. Most entries in 'term' have references, but occasionally entries in others have referneces too. This is messy, and I'd suggest adding a new column 'sources' or such and moving references there, IF they are supporting all claims in the row. But there are cleary some rows with no citations (ex. Sangoma). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, good idea, I’ll create a new column. I thought you wouldn’t need a citation for articles on Wikipedia since that makes them non-contestable, but that is just WP:Circular.
Articles created/expanded on August 30
[edit]Mitch Torres
- ... that writer, director, and first Indigenous Australian on-air presenter for SBS Television Mitch Torres is a "self-proclaimed damper destroyer"?
- Source: "Mitch Torres was SBS’s first Indigenous presenter (1988) and went on to do her journalism cadetship with ABC TV news, later becoming the first presenter and field journalist for GWN’s long-running magazine program Millbindi." "AFTRS Honorary Degrees For Lynette Wallworth, Cherie Romaro and Mitch Torres". Australian Film Television and Radio School. 21 May 2021. Retrieved 30 August 2024.
- ALT1: ... that in the mockumentary BabaKiueria, Mitch Torres played the role of a reporter following the lives of a "‘typical’ white family", described a football match as "ritualised violence" and betting at the TAB as a religion? Source: "Presenter Duranga Manika (Michelle Torres) describes her fascination with white people and their customs and explains how she spent six months living with a ‘typical white family’" "Elsewhere Manika describes the football match as ritualised violence and betting at the TAB as a religion" Matthews, Kate. "Babakiueria: 'This strange and fascinating people'". National Film and Sound Archive. Government of Australia. Retrieved 1 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Dorothy Stanley
- Comment: Per DYK guidelines, there is a two day eligibility window following a week after creation so it should fall within this window. Thank you for the reviewer for your time in advance! ALT1 is a bit lengthy, so I am open to any ways for it to be shortened while keeping the hook-iness.
Ornithoptera (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Oh, "Minister of White Affairs" got a good belly laugh out of me! New enough and long enough. Earwig gives 47%, but everything is the name of an award, so it looks okay. Hook fact for ALT1 checks out. ALT0, however... given the history of "first" statements on the main page, I'm not sure if the sourcing is solid enough. Two of the four references for her being the first indigenous presenter are film festivals, where participants often provide their own biodata. The other two are a bit more solid, but at the same time a "first" claim gives me pause. ALT1 should be okay, but ALT0 will need further discussion if you'd rather use it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Crisco 1492! Thank you for taking the time to look through the article! Apologies for the late response, I've had a busy week. I feel like the Australian Film Television and Radio School is a reliable secondary source, but it's hard to verify outside of that. If that does not pass in order to include in the hook, we can workshop an alternative that is without Torres' biographical details and skips straight to the "self proclaimed damper destroyer" quote? Ornithoptera (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra
- ... that İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra once opened the national women's chess championships as Northern Cyprus' Minister of Health? Source: Açılışını Sağlık Bakanı İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra’nın yaptığı ... Kadınlar Satranç Şampiyonası çekişmeli ve heyecanlı bir şekilde sona erdi./The Women's Chess Championship, which was opened by the Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra ... ended in a competitive and exciting manner.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diplodus argenteus
- Comment: Northern Cypriot DYKs are very rare, and I haven't done one of these before. Hope I did this right.
ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough. Although WP:DYKLEN does not address this, I am not happy when an article just barely meets the length requirements thanks to repeating a significant portion of its content in the lead pararaph or lead section. Without said repetition, this article contains about 1350 characters of prose. I also do not think that a minister opening a chess championship is particularly interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Well, the thing is, it is what a lede is supposed to do, to summarize the basics, and while I try to keep the lede as necessarily short as possible, in this case the lede just happened to summarize the entire body in only a third of its size. And to be honest, I just found it unusual for a health minister to open a national chess championship during their tenure, which is why it felt interesting to have as a hook. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Edmonds Band Rotunda
- ... that Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was deconstructed after the 2011 Christchurch earthquake and was rebuilt in 2021?
―Panamitsu (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: A bit uninteresting, but looks good. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
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- Nice article, I found the fact it was a restaurant to be quite interesting/unique, heritage buildings often get rebuilt but a rotunda serving as a restaurant paints quite an interesting thought in my mind. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seconding Traumnovelle, my only comment is that the hook is a bit boring. I think a more interesting one might be something like
...that the small basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda was once used as a kitchen?
. And thank you for including my photo! David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- This looks more interesting than the hook presented in the nomination.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
11:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that your hook is better, Cloventt. I'll write it out for the next reviewer. ALT1:
- "... that the small basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was once used as a kitchen?" Source: https://canterburystories.nz/exhibitions/places-christchurch-band-rotundas/thomas-edmonds-band-rotunda ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- This looks more interesting than the hook presented in the nomination.
- Tagging for a second review, given Nuggeteer's topic ban. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was going to approve the new hook, but there are some issues: 1. the sentence supporting the fact lacks a footnote, 2. the source does not refer to the basement as "small", and 3. the article is in need of a copyedit for some minor grammatical errors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 3
[edit]The Nualas
- ... that The Nualas were always Nuala, Nuala and Nuala? Source: https://sotcaa.org/comment/nualas.html
- ALT1: ... that Anne, Sue, Tara, Susanna, Karen, Maria, and Josephine have all been Nualas? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/904033742/ , https://www.chortle.co.uk/review/2014/08/22/29767/the_nualas:_hello_again,_were_the_nualas , https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bwh&AN=200304081051704117&lang=en-gb&site=eds-live&scope=site
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tauba Tauba (song)
Bogger (talk) 14:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a full review, but I'd recommend brainstorming new hooks. The second hook seems to namedrop names likely to be unfamilar to the reader, and the first hook runs afoul of WP:DYKFICTION. Bremps... 01:55, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that The Nualas trio has changed faces over the years? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/904033742/ , https://www.chortle.co.uk/review/2014/08/22/29767/the_nualas:_hello_again,_were_the_nualas , https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bwh&AN=200304081051704117&lang=en-gb&site=eds-live&scope=site
- ALT3: ... that The Nualas trio has had two constant members? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/904033742/ , https://www.chortle.co.uk/review/2014/08/22/29767/the_nualas:_hello_again,_were_the_nualas , https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=bwh&AN=200304081051704117&lang=en-gb&site=eds-live&scope=site -Bogger (talk) 13:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Svayamvara
- ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?
- Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
- Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.
- Reviewed:
Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- : Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Have you completed the copyright check, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- The green check in the circle means yes (it's a special DYK one that means it was accepted). Mrfoogles (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
@Z1720 Any update, it has been passed quite a long ago.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 17:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Seyamar: The article is at WP:DYKNA: it will be moved into a prep set when there is an open spot. Z1720 (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Unpromoted due to this discussion at WT:DYK—extensive sourcing problems with significant information not verified by sources. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 4
[edit]Gigi Perez, Sailor Song (song)
- ... that following criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities over a lyric in "Sailor Song", Gigi Perez replied that her songwriting was "not a democracy"? Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/who-is-gigi-perez-new-artist-blowing-up-with-viral-hit-sailor-song/
Launchballer 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Launchballer 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Launchballer 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Please address the above.--Launchballer 17:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Okay, you could have just asked: we're all volunteers here. I think that when I first reviewed you were only partway through the reviews, so I figured that it probably wasn't time yet. QPQs do look done now; going to leave this to another reviewer to pick the hook. Personally I think ALT0a sounds fine, but I like ALT1 a lot (the exact phrasing might not be perfectly, but I think it's interesting): maybe if it was split, ALT0a could be used without Gigi Perez bolded, and then ALT1 for the second DYK? Otherwise, if they are not split, ALT0a seems good. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 5
[edit]Come In (Weatherday album)
- ... that several characters from a webcomic Weatherday wrote appear in their album Come In?
- Source: [4] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life. The character Agatha is from that comic and same with Oswald and Ines."
- ALT1: ... that after the original run sold out, vinyl copies of Come In were put up for sale on Discogs for as much as $100? Source: [5] "Last year, U.S. indie label Topshelf, a crucial fourth-wave emo outlet, dropped a double-LP reissue of Come In, and the whole run of 2,000 sold out—if you want a pristine copy, be prepared to pony up $100 on Discogs."
- ALT2: ... that Come In was recorded on a hands-free microphone attached to a pair of headphones? Source: [6] "I used the headphone mic because I didn’t have a better one and thought I could do without one."Album liner notes (viewable on Bandcamp) "Honorable mention to the hands-free mic attached to my headphones which I recorded this album on"
- ALT3: ... that Come In was inspired by a webcomic that Weatherday wrote? Source: [7] "Mio is a character from a webcomic I made back in 2016-2017 [...] I used Mio on the album cover cause I drew inspiration from the webcomic when I was making the album"[8] "The album as a whole is set up like my webcomic which I sort of based things from the album on along with my own life."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I created the page in the draftspace and OhHaiMark moved it into the mainspace. This is my first DYK nomination and first time building up an article, please let me know if I did anything wrong!
LeMeilleurMiel (talk) 21:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- @LeMeilleurMiel and Tavantius: Not a review, but Rateyourmusic.com is deprecated on WP:UPSD. What makes it reliable?--Launchballer 20:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: While the user-generated RYM database is deprecated, the article is citing an interview by a staff member with the creator of the article's subject. Since the interview is only being used to give information about the artist's intentions behind certain parts of the album, I believe WP:ABOUTSELF would apply here. Best, LeMeilleurMiel (talk)
- I guess. Full review needed.--Launchballer 23:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Moses da Rieti
- ... that Moses da Rieti was the first Hebrew poet to write in the rhyming verse form of Dante?
- Reviewed:
cc @User:GordonGlottal Andre🚐 19:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
- Given that general readers may not know what "terza rima" is, a minor reword (perhaps changing the term to something more accessible) may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fair, maybe we should add the phrase "rhyming verse form" afterwards? Andre🚐 01:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or you could just replace "terza rima" with "rhyming verse form" in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- A drive-by comment: this has the perennial form of "first" hooks, that even though we may have sources calling them first, there's a high likelihood of WP:ERRORS when someone notices the hook and remembers the existence of someone else using terza rima in Hebrew at an earlier date, overlooked by our source. To forestall this, can we maybe rewrite the hook to avoid the word "first"? Something like
- ALT1 ... that Moses da Rieti wrote Hebrew poetry in the rhyming verse form of Dante?
- —David Eppstein (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says
Rieti was, in fact, the first Hebrew poet to use this form, and through his influence it was incorporated into Hebrew poetry by his successors.
Andre🚐 00:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind that, but I think it's rather unlikely that someone will find another example of it, since Dante died in 1321 and Moses was born in 1388, and there are precious few remaining manuscripts from that time to begin with, though I suppose it's not entirely out of the question that a cache of codices will be found in some Vatican annex basement or a Dead Sea caves situation. For reference, the source (Dvora Bregman) says
Articles created/expanded on September 6
[edit]Empirical Labs Distressor
- ... that Maroon 5, Kali Uchis, and Wilco have all used the same effects unit (pictured)?
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/inside-track-kali-uchis-fantasy
https://tapeop.com/interviews/70/tj-doherty/- ALT1: ... that the Empirical Labs Distressor (pictured) went from selling poorly to being described as ubiquitous as a coffee machine?
- Source: https://sonicscoop.com/inventor-insights-dave-derrs-tips-tricks-for-the-empirical-labs-distressor/ (sold poorly)
- Reviewed:
The Midnite Wolf (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC).
- @The Midnite Wolf: The hook is only interesting if you know who all of the listed musicians are and as such does not meet WP:DYKINT. Please propose another.--Launchballer 20:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @The Midnite Wolf: Please address the above.--Launchballer 23:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I think all of those musicians are pretty well known? Maroon 5 has had five albums peak at either #1 or #2 in the US, Kali Uchis had an album at #2, and Wilco has had two albums at #4. That said, I've added an alternate hook. The Midnite Wolf (talk) 03:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hooks need to be interesting to a broad audience, and I've never heard of Wilco and only know Uchis as the partner of Don Toliver. Full review needed.--Launchballer 07:36, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I think all of those musicians are pretty well known? Maroon 5 has had five albums peak at either #1 or #2 in the US, Kali Uchis had an album at #2, and Wilco has had two albums at #4. That said, I've added an alternate hook. The Midnite Wolf (talk) 03:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @The Midnite Wolf: Please address the above.--Launchballer 23:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Drive-by comment (not to be taken seriously): in skimming recent nominations too quickly, I misread this hook as being "Did you know ... that the Empirical Labs Distressor went from being a poorly selling effects unit to being a ubiquitous coffee machine?" Now that would be a hook-worthy transformation! Too bad it's not very accurate. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Michael Sugrue
- ... that Michael Sugrue became an "internet phenomenon" during the COVID-19 pandemic for his lectures on YouTube covering "the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history” recorded in 1992?
- Source: "Michael Sugrue, 66, Dies; His Talks on Philosophy Were a YouTube Hit
After an academic career spent in near obscurity, he became an internet phenomenon during the pandemic by uploading talks he had given three decades earlier.
The college lecturer, in a uniform of rumpled khakis and corduroy blazer, paces on a small stage, head down. “The lectures you’re about to see,” he says in introducing a series of talks, videotaped in somewhat hokey lo-fi style in 1992, “cover the last 3,000 years of Western intellectual history.""
NY Times- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sophie Scamps
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome!
Thriley (talk) 17:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
1917 Łódź City Council election
- ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
- Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - Borderline eligible for "lead needs expansion" cleanup tag
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - ?
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed: - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px: - all you can see is a number 5
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Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?
- @Buidhe: Please address the above.--Launchballer 11:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?
- @Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- it's an improvement over the other hooks proposed. (t · c) buidhe 13:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 7
[edit]Nan Nan Resources
- ... that the Hong Kong based holding company now known as Nan Nan Resources went by three different names in 2011?
- Source: In 2011, the company would change its identity twice. First to International Resources Enterprise Limited in April, and then to Nan Nan Resources Enterprise Limited in October.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first ever DYK nomination. Please give feedback to help make it better.
DarthCloakedGuy (talk) 12:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC). Starting review now...
- Article is long enough and new enough
- QPQ exempt
- The image is appropriately licensed. I've taken the liberty of doing some image editing on it and uploading that.
- The sourcing seems adequate. If this were to show up at WP:GAN, I suspect the reviewer would want to see less use of press releases and the company's own website, but I think this is good enough for DYK.
- The hook fact verifies
- There's some WP:CLOP problems, particularly in the History section compared to uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/The_88_Queensway_Group.pdf. See the earwig report. These passages should be rewritten in your own prose rather than just changing a few words here or there.
- RoySmith (talk) 14:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
48th Hong Kong International Film Festival
- ... that the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival canceled the screening of a politically themed film due to the "inability to locate suitable copies", despite the film being showcased 3 years ago?
- ALT1: ... that Karena Lam was named the ambassador of the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, making her only the second woman to hold this position? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/M503
- Comment:
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ "國際電影節突取消放映《去年煙花特別多》 陳果感可惜:咩都可以發生" [[Hong Kong] International Film Festival Suddenly Cancels Screening of The Longest Summer — Fruit Chan Expresses Regret: Anything Could Happen.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 9 March 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
原定在第四十八屆香港國際電影節中放映的《去年煙花特別多》日前突然取消,主辦方指「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」,改爲放映電影《墮胎師》。該電影由本港獨立電影導演陳果執導,他回覆本報查詢說,對於《去年》未能放映感到可惜,又稱近日才接獲電影節通知指沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映,不清楚是否涉及其他原因。《去年》於1998年上映,與《香港製造》及《細路祥》合稱「九七三部曲」,以香港主權移交及華裔英兵故事作爲背景,電影中亦穿插主權移交及解放軍入城等片段。
[The screening of The Longest Summer, originally scheduled for the 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival, was suddenly canceled. The organizers stated that it could not be shown "due to the inability to locate suitable copies", and the film The Abortionist will be screened instead. Directed by local independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, he responded to [Ming Pao's] inquiry by expressing regret that The Longest Summer could not be screened. He mentioned that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available, and he is unsure if there are other reasons involved. The Longest Summer was released in 1998 and is part of the "1997 Trilogy," along with Made in Hong Kong and Little Cheung. It sets against the backdrop of Hong Kong's sovereignty handover and stories of Chinese-ethnic British soldiers. The film also features segments about the handover and the arrival of the People's Liberation Army.] - ^ "「找不到合適拷貝」 國際電影節撤播《去年煙花特別多 》" ["Unable to Find Suitable Copies": International Film Festival Withdraws Screening of The Longest Summer.]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 10 March 2024. Archived from the original on 9 September 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
第48屆香港國際電影節本月28日開幕,由獨立電影導演陳果執導的《去年煙花特別多》突然被取消放映,改為放映同由陳果執導的《墮胎師》。主辦方在電影節節目及訂票手冊中稱「因找不到合適拷貝而未能放映」。陳果昨回覆本報稱,對於《去》未能放映感可惜,近日才接獲電影節通知稱沒有菲林拷貝而取消放映,不清楚是否涉其他原因。翻查資料,《去》曾於2017年在香港藝術中心古天樂電影院放映,當年主辦方與今屆電影節主辦方同為香港國際電影節協會(HKIFF)。《去》2021年也曾在兆基創意書院放映室放映,播放的是35mm菲林拷貝。
[The 48th Hong Kong International Film Festival opened on the 28th of this month. The screening of The Longest Summer, directed by independent filmmaker Fruit Chan, was suddenly canceled, and it was replaced with The Abortionist, also directed by Fruit Chan. The organizers stated in the festival program and ticketing booklet that it could not be screened "due to the inability to locate suitable copies". Chan expressed regret over the cancellation of The Longest Summer, stating that he only recently received notification from the festival that there were no film copies available and is unsure if there are other reasons involved. According to records, The Longest Summer was previously screened in 2017 at the Hong Kong Arts Centre's Gigi Leung Cinema, with the same organizers as this year's festival, the Hong Kong International Film Festival Society (HKIFF). The film was also screened in 2021 at Lee Shau Kee School of Creativity, using a 35mm film copy.] - ^ Lo, Zabrina (20 March 2024). "Karena Lam on the lack of gender equality in the local film industry, and her ambassadorships with French May and Hong Kong International Film Festival". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on March 29, 2024. Retrieved 7 September 2024.
To say Taiwanese Canadian actress Karena Lam has a packed calendar is an understatement. This year, she replaces Aaron Kwok as the ambassador of the Hong Kong International Film Festival which will take place from March 28 to April 8—becoming the second woman to be offered this position since actress Miriam Yeung in 2011.
Flag of Falcón state, Monument to the Venezuelan Federation
- ... that the current flag of Falcón state (pictured), first hoisted at the Monument to the Venezuelan Federation in 2006, was based on the design of the 1806 naval flag of Francisco de Miranda?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Uzun-Hajji
- Comment: qpq review is a double nom
Soman (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
Abraham Hamadeh
- ... that Abraham Hamadeh lost one of the closest elections in Arizona history by 280 votes, and has filed multiple lawsuits challenging the results?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first DYK nomination, I'm confident I did this right but I'm still welcome to suggestions!
DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 05:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 8
[edit]Tore Skeie
- ... that Tore Skeie's first book, written while he faced severe financial hardship, won him a prize of NOK 100,000?
- ALT1: ... that a critic wrote that Tore Skeie's third book had the "energy of an epic television show"? Source: [11]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
Kimikel (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Jewish dairy restaurant
- ... that Leon Trotsky frequented a Jewish dairy restaurant in the Bronx but refused to tip, and waiters retaliated by spilling hot soup on him?
- Reviewed:
Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
- As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food like cheese blintzes and vegetarian borscht to accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?
- A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Can I review the article or do my copyedits disqualify me? Viriditas (talk) 21:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- I did a few! Andre🚐 23:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify Viriditas's concern, the reason I asked for a new review is more out of check-and-balance reasons. Personally I have a preference ALT1 (the straightforward hook), but others may disagree and think that the Trotsky angle is more interesting (and personally I do also find it interesting). Normally what I could have done is to approve both hooks and leave it to the promoter, but given how torn I am over the options I thought bringing in a third-party editor to give their own opinion would also help reach a proper consensus. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it:
The subjects of Mr. Katchor’s new book, “The Dairy Restaurant” (Schocken, $29.95), were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens.
Good enough? If not, I'll check the book, though I can't do it tonight. Andre🚐 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it:
- Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm really torn about what to write here. As a resident of the Bronx, I find ALT0 to be a wonderful hook. I had no idea Trotsky ever lived in the Bronx. The idea that I've literally walked down the block where he ate his meals just blows my mind. BTW, I found an ad for the Triangle Dairy Restaurant in the Daily Worker, https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/dailyworker/1929/1929-ny/v05-n344-NY-feb-08-1929-DW-LOC.pdf, page 3, rightmost column. And a photograph. But, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE says avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to
which would seem to rule out the Trotsky hook. Still, it's such a great hook, I'd say WP:IAR and use it. RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, very cool finds. "Comrades, Patronize The Triangle Dairy Restaurant." Love it. Andre🚐 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
I added a fact to the article, from a cited NYT review of the book, which could make a good hook: ... that growth of Jewish dairy restaurants was aided by better commercial refrigeration and periodic "meat strikes" against the high cost of kosher butchers? ProfGray (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is an interesting tidbit, but it feels like it would be hard to properly explain within the space of a hook, the meat strikes I mean. The refrigeration thing is also interesting. I mean I guess it's a hook that pulls you in and says, what the heck do you mean, meat strikes? But then we don't really explain what they actually did or were in the article ... yet..., but it may be difficult to do so. I'll have to see what Katchor says about it in the full text. Andre🚐 05:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[12][13] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- That is a great fact, though it's more about B&H Dairy. While I did include it in that article, I omitted it from this one, though not intentionally. We could shove it into this article but I'm not sure that I like it better than the Trotsky hook or the Narutolovehinata5 special edition straightforward hook. Also, ProfGray figured out about the meat strikes, they were the 1902 kosher meat boycott. That could make that fact usable. Andre🚐 23:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I found a place to sneak it into the article and it went in easier than I thought, so you have a Viriditas special edition pluralistic ALT4.[1] Andre🚐 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[12][13] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 9
[edit]Alison Creagh
- ... that Alison Creagh (pictured) became a Member of the Order of Australia "for significant service to veterans and their families, and to rowing"? Source: https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-07/QB20%20Gazette%20-%20O%20of%20A%20V6.pdf
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review). The COI banner on the article (with circumstances detailed on the article talk page) needs to be resolved before this can feature in DYK. Cleanup banners are not intended as a permanent mark of shame for articles, but rather to indicate that something can and should be cleaned up. The question then becomes: do the circumstances described on the talk page mean that there is a COI that should be cleaned up? What must be done to the article to clean it up so this banner can be removed? —David Eppstein (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
neutrality-related templates such as {{COI}} (associated with the conflict of interest guideline) or {{POV}} (associated with the neutral point of view policy) strongly recommend that the tagging editor initiate a discussion (generally on the article's talk page) to support the placement of the tag. If the tagging editor failed to do so, or the discussion is dormant, and there is no other support for the template, it can be removed.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- An organisation offers you all kind of help so you can write better or more articles about an event they are heavily involved in, and you then write an article about the CEO of that organisation. How is that not a blatant COI? And I have not made any personal attacks about you, and I haven't made any comment whatsoever about David Eppstein, so I have no idea where you see any personal attacks on them. Anyway, I'll raise this at the COIN board. Fram (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no undisclosed conflict of interest. I have never edited for pay. I was an unpaid Wikipedian in Residence with Paralympics Australia. I have only met the brigadier twice: at the Boccia, where the Chef de Mission introduced us and we talked about our work at Paris 2024, and at the Rowing three days later, when I asked for a photograph, which I took and is used in the article. Please cease the personal attacks on myself and David Eppstein, who was only posting a comment. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really claiming that you have no COI wrt this article now? Or that the finding (passed 10 to 0) that " Hawkeye7 (talk · contribs) has a previously undisclosed conflict of interest [...]" didn't exist? Or both? Fram (talk) 10:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- There was no such finding, and there was no undisclosed COI. What there is is an editor pursuing a pattern of harassment that got them blocked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Do you dispute the COI? Or should I have placed a "paid editor" tag instead? This DYK should siomply be closed, as we shouldn't have such "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" promotion. To quote from a question (not from me) from your 2019 RfA: "In one of the arbitration cases which resulted in a finding against you, there was a finding involving an undisclosed conflict-of-interest that resulted in serious subversion of the FA process. " We here have the same editor with an undisclosed COI at DYK. Here you start wikiwlawyering about the tag (even though I started a discussion about it on the talk page right away, where you haven't responded). Fram (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:WTRMT:
- Without getting into whether or not this should run, WP:DYKTAG explicitly allows articles with COI tags.--Launchballer 23:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Middlesex Regiment alien labour units
- ... that during the First World War the British army deployed companies of aliens to France?
- Source: Although all eight were described as "Alien" companies, the originals were formed from the sons of foreign nationals, however from 1918 actual foreign nationals were used to form three companies , see eg: "the Director of Labour in France was informed that all Russians and other aliens whom 'it was not desirable to retain with fighting units' were to be sent to the Middlesex Regiment base depot at Etaples. Apart from the Russians, they were to be posted to the Middlesex Infantry Labour Companies ... This enabled three more Middlesex Labour companies to be formed." from: Messenger, Charles (30 April 2015). Call to Arms: The British Army 1914-18. Orion. p. 121. ISBN 978-1-78022-759-7.
- ALT1: ... that during the First World War "the queerest battalion in the British Army" did no fighting? Source: "Only in September 1916 did one of the battalions (perhaps in ignorance of the second) become the focus of sarcastic press attention. Headlined 'The Kaiser's Own', the London Evening Standard ran an article about the 'Queerest Battalion in the British Army'" from: Emden, Richard van (15 August 2013). Meeting the Enemy: The Human Face of the Great War. A&C Black. pp. 246–249. ISBN 978-1-4088-3981-2. and "This unit is not a combatant unit" from: "Middlesex Regiment, 30th Battalion : Volume 91: debated on Thursday 8 March 1917". Hansard. Retrieved 26 August 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ivan Palmaw
Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 11
[edit]It's OK I'm OK
- ... that Tate McRae gets naked in her "It's OK I'm OK" music video?
- Source: News.com.au
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WHOV
NØ 07:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC).
- :: A singer getting naked to promote her song? Propose to revise the hook. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC) * -->
- ALT1: ... that Tate McRae actually wore a tube top and shorts in her "It's OK I'm OK" music video and was edited to look naked later? Source: Capital
- ALT2: ... that Tate McRae's parents thought her "It's OK I'm OK" music video, in which she appears to be naked, was "so fire"? Source: Capital
- New hooks provided above. Ping to Sarvagyana guru in case you are interested in continuing the review.--NØ 09:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Shin Iza Gawna
- ... that after obtaining the philosopher's stone, the monk Shin Iza Gawna caused gold and silver to rain down in Pagan, bringing great wealth to his followers? Source: https://news-eleven.com/article/292466
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- This will not be a full review but DYK hooks need to be factual. If we run with this hook, we need to do something like ALT1: that according to legend, after obtaining the philosopher's stone, the monk Shin Iza Gawna caused gold and silver to rain down in Pagan, bringing great wealth to his followers? Bremps... 06:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, please... I have an image of the monk's statue, and I’m trying to find it in my iCloud. I will upload it to Wiki Commons soon. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Photo added. It's good time to full review. Hteiktinhein (talk) 16:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 12
[edit]Charles Biasiny-Rivera
- ... that photographer Charles Biasiny-Rivera and fellow members of the artistic collective En Foco drove around New York City in his Volkswagen Bus putting on art exhibitions in Latino neighborhoods?
- Source: NY Times
Thriley (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
Cannonball (MILW train)
- ... that Milwaukee, Wisconsin, had a commuter train nicknamed the Cannonball operating between suburban Watertown until 1972?
- Source: Sanders, Craig (2006). Amtrak in the Heartland. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 184. ISBN 978-0-253-34705-3
- Reviewed:
Central Corridor (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi @Central Corridor:, and welcome to DYK. I'm not doing a full review, but I will provide you with some feedback to help out. Firstly, I have tagged some uncited statements in the article that will need to be cited before this article can pass DYK per WP:DYKCITE. Second, I think the proposed hook will not meet the interesting requirement. It simply states a basic fact that even I, someone obsessed with trains to the point they're in my username, do not find particularly interesting. Fortunately, there are some things in the article that we can use to support a better hook. I was drawn to the sentence "The Cannonball gained a reputation for parties that frequently occurred on the Friday night train outbound from Milwaukee. Passengers brought aboard drinks to share, a band played, and the train often held at intermediate stops to replenish beer and ice."
- Based on that sentence, here's my proposed hook: "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball was often the site of parties with a live band and drinks on Friday nights?"
- One other idea would be a hook about how 89% of riders on the pilot program said they would keep riding the train, yet it still wasn't restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Benjamin Franklin Shumard
- ... that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species in his honor, but then foiled his reinstatement after he was let go by newly-elected Governor Sam Houston?
- Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR.
got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content
see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.- ALT1: ... that Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard had an oak species named in his honor by an assistant in 1860, who then stymied Shumard's reappointment by Texas Governor Sam Houston? Source: same as above, trying different wording
- Reviewed:
ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
U Wasawa
- ... that the Buddhist monk U Wasawa founded an armed Pyusawhti militia at his monastery and commanded his forces to burn down several villages? Source: https://burmese.dvb.no/post/570515
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi, why is no one interested in viewing this DYK for a long time? Please let me know how many days the review process usually takes. Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Hteiktinhein! DYK is user driven, with various incentives to review hooks such as to complete their QPQ, interest, or simply goodwill. Predominantly foreign-language sourced articles or longer articles tend to take time to review due to the necessity to verify the various points. It is important to understand that, because sometimes it can take hours or even months, with no guarantee on the article being reviewed as soon as you want it to. Patience is important, and it is important to keep in mind there is no inherent rush for the nomination to move forward once it has been put out there. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 13
[edit]Nobody Knows (Shawn Mendes song)
- ... that Shawn Mendes's song "Nobody Knows" was recorded in one take on a "tough night"?
- Source: American Songwriter
NØ 05:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
Virginia Beach Police Department
- ... that the Virginia Beach Police Department has a force larger than that of Richmond, the state's capital?
- Reviewed:
Erin (SSBelfastFanatic) (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- Promising factoid, but with no provided citation to back it up here. Article was created 15 days ago (on September 3)—a week and change beyond the normal eligibility deadline—but became an AFC graduate on the 13th, so at least we're good here. Said article also has a {{more sources needed section}} banner, which fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE and might as well be addressed ASAP. To the editor now known as @PhoenixCaelestis: As far as your DYK skills are concerned, you're starting to get there, and with two go-rounds in this arena so far, I'll forgive you for that. Wishing you luck next time, and best of editing! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Slgrandson: I have solved the tag by yeeting the whole section and several others, that one per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 14:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
[edit]Od Warszawy do Ojcowa
- ... that the Polish adventure and travel novel for the youth, From Warsaw to Ojców, was "highly regarded novel in its time", and inspired another novel by another writer half a decade later? Source: see Makuch (2013), Kuliczkowska (1959, 1973) as cited in the article
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ pending.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Czarodziejski okręt
- ... that The Magic Ship is a Polish robinsonade from 1914, inspired by the works of Jules Verne? Source: https://books.google.co.kr/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&id=ZX4ZAAAAMAAJ&dq=umi%C5%84ski+%22W+g%C5%82%C4%99binach+oceanu%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Verne%27owsk%C4%85+Szko%C5%82%C4%85+Robinson%C3%B3w%22
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ pending.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Nathania Ong
- ... that Nathania Ong had not even seen the musical when she was offered the role of Éponine in Les Misérables?
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- More of a comment than a review, but while I do think the hook is marginally interesting, I imagine theater actors being offered roles in plays they'd never seen before is actually not uncommon. As such, I wonder if additional hook angles could be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: that's a reasonable point, though this was what I deemed to be the most interesting "factoid" in the article. And even if it really were the case (that this is "actually not uncommon"), how many times have such hooks appeared on DYK? It sure can't beat the river-related hooks of yesteryear 😆 KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 16
[edit]Krzyż i półksiężyc
- ... that the 1913 Polish novel The Cross and the Crescent is one of the earliest examples of military science fiction genre in Polish literature? Source: https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/uminski_wladyslaw
- Reviewed:
- Comment: QPQ pending
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ provided. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Krwawy chleb
- ... that the 1909 Polish novel Bloody Bread about the struggles of Polish immigrants in the US was in the 1950s briefly criticized by the Polish communist censors for "glorifying the United States"? Source: http://wrh.edu.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/299_PDFsam_WRH-t.-XII-2015.pdf
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV (added from below September 29)
- Comment:
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will be closing this in 24 hours if I don't see a valid QPQ before then @Piotrus:.--Launchballer 14:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Which policy allows such a speedy closure? I was under the impression QPQ can be done several days or even weeks later, while the nom is on hold. For now, have one here: Template:Did you know nominations/KAUT-TV . I will try to do QPQs for others later this week. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:QPQ: A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.--Launchballer 00:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Per a recent rule change as a result of this discussion, the old rule where QPQs must be provided within a week of the nomination has been phased out. Instead, QPQs should be provided at the time of the nomination, and any nomination that does not immediately provide a QPQ is liable for closure. Doing the QPQs "later this week" is no longer sufficient: they have to be given at the time of the nomination, and you must provide them as soon as possible if you do not want your nominations to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the heads up. I am not very happy with this change. I've always done my QPQs on time, with submission (and I've done hundreds of them), but just recently someone translated a bunch of my articles form pl wiki without heads up, and I am trying to rescue some of them for DYKs within the time period - and I am a bit busy IRL so for the first time I delayed QPQ. And then this happens. Sigh. You know you can trust me do to my QPQs, no? It's not like I will drop noms here and run. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that a QPQ was provided for this nom, so it needs a full review.--Launchballer 21:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer already gave an ultimatum for your open nominations: provide a QPQ within 24 hours of the messages, or they will be closed. If you do not think it will be feasible to complete them all in time then it may be better to just let them go for now and try to avoid this repeating in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Ready Set Learn!
- ... that Ready Set Learn! was TLC's answer to the PBS children's lineup?
- Source: "Learning Channel Plans Ad-Free Kids' Shows". Orlando Sentinel. New York Daily News. 1992-08-23. p. F2. Retrieved 2024-09-18 – via ProQuest.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Virginia Beach Police Department
- Comment: For this week's factoid, you can thank Thriley (talk · contribs) for influencing me.
- The initials of this block's home network once stood for "The Learning Channel", but as you shall soon see, there's a reason they also stand for "tender loving care".
- Yet another revamp of yet another long-neglected kidvid article (after last month's stint on The Book of Virtues). And by "long-neglected", there are no kind words for how much this got dragged across the mud over the first 18 years of its existence, suffering the slings and arrows of IPs and vandals with no substantial improvement--or serious research--in sight. To the point where TenPoundHammer (talk · contribs) and Liz (talk · contribs) put the old version out of its misery by May 2022 per WP:NTV. Quoting the former:
"Tagged for notability since 2013. Program blocks are far less likely to be notable on their own, and I see no reason for this one to be so."
- Not for long, though.
- One night last week, I came across Kenny the Shark's status report at this page on TV Tropes--which had me wondering about a demographically related Discovery property, the one I've nominated right now. Looking up Ready Set Learn! InPrivate, I was astonished there was no article on the block, only to learn it had been deleted some time ago. Plan of action: Search it up at WP:Library ProQuest, invoke WP:THREE at WP:RFUD, and hope for the best. And you can easily guess what happened next till this Monday and beyond--complete with official exclamation mark, and proof of its CableACE win back in 1995. (Rehabbed through the AFC process.)
- Don't know what to say next...other than I may need another cooldown from WP eventually. (Besides, I'm trying to get a long-gestating NaNoWriMo project of mine rejuvenated off-WP today or tomorrow.) Or maybe not, as my AFC queue will quickly prove; I feel like taking a stab at a couple of pre-queue efforts before this week's over. Once again, see you back soon with another kidlit pick.
- From one of this block's fellow viewers in the Commonwealth of Dominica back then (through the Marpin cable service).
- Wikitrivia note: Short27265 (talk · contribs) was a single-purpose account from mid-November 2004 with only two edits to their name, both page creations: for Peep and the Big Wide World, and the subject of this DYK pitch (which it aired on).
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 17
[edit]Law of reentry
- ... that a law in Elizabethan Renaissance theatre was cited as proof against the theory that Macbeth is the Third Murderer?
- Source: "Mr. Irwin Smith [...] has demonstrated conclusively that all the apparent exceptions to the "Law of Reentry" be explained and justified in one way or another. His thesis, which I take to be unexceptionable, provides the clinching proof that Macbeth is not the Third Murderer" — The Third Murderer in Macbeth
- ALT1: ... that the law of reentry is cited as an explanation for a character's abrupt exit off the stage in Richard II? Source: "Almost the only “rule” in London theater that was still faithfully followed was the one we now call, for convenience, the law of reentry [...]. Thus, in Richard II, John of Gaunt makes an abrupt and awkward departure purely to be able to take part in a vital scene that follows." — Shakespeare: The World as Stage; also discussed in Their Exits and Reentrances, p. 9 and Shakespeare's Hand in "The Second Maiden's Tragedy" p. 5
- ALT2: ... that because of the law of reentry, characters in Elizabethan theatre could not leave the stage at the end of a scene and immediately reenter in the next? Source: "Finally, a word may be said about Prolss' "Law of Re-entry" as it bears upon the matter of act-intermissions. Briefly the law is this: Characters leaving the stage at the end of a scene to reappear at another locality are, to avoid confusion, not permitted to re-enter immediately" — The "Act Time" in Elizabethan Theatres
- ALT3: ... that some scholars believe many scenes in English Renaissance plays include "speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary" to avoid violating the law of reentry? Source: "Neuendorff considers Prölsz's Law of Re-entry (that no character shall leave the stage and immediately re-enter if the scene is meanwhile supposed to have changed) at some length, and finds it of the greatest influence upon dramatic construction. It accounts for the many scenes beginning or ending with a monologue, and for the insertion of speeches or even scenes otherwise unnecessary." — What We Know of the Elizabethan Stage
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Since this article deals with something governing the way characters exit and enter the stage in English Renaissance plays, I'm not actually sure if any of these run afoul of the "must focus on a real-world fact" thing, so I've provided a lot of hooks.
~Cheers, TenTonParasol 03:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 18
[edit]The United States of America (album)
- ... that Columbia Records wanted to change a song title on the 1968 album The United States of America by the band of the same name, because it referenced the then recently deceased Che Guevara?
- ALT1: ... that the title of the 1968 album The United States of America was intended to be a political statement akin to "hanging the flag upside down"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Had to find an alternate source that I could easily link to as the article uses a book source
Iostn (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but ALT2: ... that the United States of America falls short of being really satisfying? would make an excellent April Fools' hook.--Launchballer 22:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Talk Talk (Charli XCX song)
- ... that Charli XCX once followed George Daniel into a toilet but stopped halfway, later writing "Talk Talk" about her experience? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/charli-xcx-reveals-talk-talk-is-about-nearly-following-the-1975s-george-daniel-to-the-toilet-at-the-nme-awards-3764123
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aracy Amaral
- Comment: Drive-by nom.
Launchballer 02:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 19
[edit]Isabel Pass
- ... that Isabel Pass has been called "one of the best passes through the Alaska Alps"?
- Source: https://www.nps.gov/wrst/learn/historyculture/the-valdez-trail.htm in the last paragraph before the section Construction of the Valdez Trail, 1898-1906. He is calling the Alaska Range the "Alaska Alps"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Expansion has been on and off since March 2024, due to my limited time & travel. The most recent and fruitful push has been since September 2024
Subarcticsensing (talk) 21:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment — I found nothing in the source correlating to the hook, plus there is no such thing as the "Alaska Alps". I doubt a preponderance of sources exist which make a connection to the term existing as a colloquialism. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 20:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I should have probably been more specific in the comment. I'm new to this and still getting the hang of things. It's in the last paragraph before the section Construction of the Valdez Trail, 1898-1906 and Lt. Joseph Castner is talking about his exploration of the pass as part of the Glenn expedition of the Copper River Basin in 1898. "Alaska Alps" is referring to the Alaska Range, and that term seems to be an idiolect of his. Would something like "... that Isabel Pass has been called "one of the best passes through the 'Alaska Alps'" be more clear? Subarcticsensing (talk) 01:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- For whatever reason, the text in question did not appear when I read it on my phone, but did appear when I read it on my laptop. The real problem is one of context. I'm guessing that Lt. Joseph Castner is the same as Joseph Compton Castner and this would have originated with his 1898 expedition. I say "guessing" because the NPS historian left no bibliography or footnotes. Based on a library catalog search, "Speaking about his adventure ten years later" appears to refer to an account of a presentation given in Hawaii, which was published in 1910. Otherwise, I have no clue about specifics and this reads like some random thing found on the web. It passes WP:V in that it exists. By any other historical standard, however, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Speaking of that which one found on the web, a Google search turned up multiple hits showing that the Chigmit Mountains are somewhat known as the "Alaska Alps". I could find no such hits referring to the Alaska Range as such. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 20:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it's the same Joseph Castner. According to GNIS, the Alaska Range was sometimes called the Chigmit/"T schigmit" Range, but them and their source don't provide exact dates when or by whom they were used. The Dictionary of Alaska Place Names, the source for the GNIS, also shows nothing called the "Alaska Alps." Looking at Walter Mendenhall's 1898 report on the expedition (page marked 285, PDF page 289), Mendenhall calls it the "Alaskan Range." On page 289/PDF page 293, he says this "The head of the Matanuska Valley is one of the most picturesque regions seen during the summer, rivaling that part of Delta River which cuts through the main Alaskan Range." Would changing the hook to "... that Isabel Pass has been called on the of the most picturesque passes of the Alaska Range?" be enough? Otherwise I'm fine with it being rejected. I'll try to be a bit more thorough next time. Subarcticsensing (talk) 01:22, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- I should have probably been more specific in the comment. I'm new to this and still getting the hang of things. It's in the last paragraph before the section Construction of the Valdez Trail, 1898-1906 and Lt. Joseph Castner is talking about his exploration of the pass as part of the Glenn expedition of the Copper River Basin in 1898. "Alaska Alps" is referring to the Alaska Range, and that term seems to be an idiolect of his. Would something like "... that Isabel Pass has been called "one of the best passes through the 'Alaska Alps'" be more clear? Subarcticsensing (talk) 01:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Chauncey Archiquette
- ... that Chauncey Archiquette was Jim Thorpe's idol?
- Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Although Thorpe was a highly accomplished and iconic athlete of his era, I'm not actually sure if most Americans today know who he is or at least recognize his name (speaking as a non-American). In addition, I don't know if Thorpe is a name that is known internationally. As such, the hook as currently written may not be broadly interesting enough to meet WP:DYKINT. Additional hook suggestions are probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I considered this when making the nomination, but Thorpe is one of the most famous athletes of all time. Books are written about him nearly every year and we still have articles from the past few months such as "Thorpe was and still is the greatest athlete in the history of sports" / "On this day in history, May 28, 1888, Jim Thorpe, 'greatest athlete in the world,' is born" – I would be very surprised if the vast majority of people don't recognize his name. I feel like it may lose some of its 'punch', but if really necessary, we could say something like ALT1 ... that Chauncey Archiquette was the idol of Jim Thorpe, regarded as one of the greatest athletes in history? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject
. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here:
Articles created/expanded on September 20
[edit]George Frederick Cumming Smillie
- ... that a portrait engraver (pictured) made the controversial decision to change a Souix chief's war bonnet so that it would fit on the 1899 United States five-dollar Silver Certificate?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik
- Comment: Could also use the image of the man File:George Frederick Cumming Smillie.jpg. Not sure I like his left accidental hand gesture in the image.
Bruxton (talk) 22:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC).
Alfredo Arreguín
- ... that Alfredo Arreguín has been called the "dean of Latino art in the Pacific Northwest"?
- Source: Marmor, Jon (September 2001). "For Alfredo Arreguin, art blooms from adversity". University of Washington Magazine.
- ALT1: ... that Alfredo Arreguín has represented both the United States and Mexico in the international art world? Source: Brown, Quinn Russell (2023-05-07). "Alfredo Arreguín, Painter of Myth and Memory, Dies at 88". Hyperallergic. Retrieved 2023-05-09.
- Reviewed:
ProfessorBeaver (talk) 18:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
Kesaria Abramidze
- ... that Kesaria Abramidze (pictured) was one of the first transgender public figures in Georgia?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Very popular Georgian trans model who has been murdered the day after the country's parliament passed an anti-LGTBI propaganda law, shocking the country. Article was created 3 days ago and is short, but have 2,027.
_-_Alsor (talk) 14:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
Gitmo playlist
- ... that Guantanamo Bay prison probably didn't have an official playlist?
- ALT1: ... that the creator of the theme song for Barney laughed when he found out it was used during American interrogations? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/19/usa.guantanamo
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I personally prefer ALT1, but it's a minor preference.
Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
Growing Form
- ... that sculptor Moelwyn Merchant described his 1982 piece Growing Form (pictured) as resembling "a tulip bud with the front leaf pulled out"?
- Source: "Sculptor: Moelwyn Merchant ... the artist described it as "like a tulip bud with the front leaf pulled out"" from: Noszlopy, George Thomas; Waterhouse, Fiona (1 January 2005). Public Sculpture of Staffordshire and the Black Country. Liverpool University Press. p. 44. ISBN 978-0-85323-989-5.
Dumelow (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
Khun Tan (mystic)
- ... that the Pa'O religious figure Khun Tan seducing hundreds of young girls by portraying himself as the next Buddha? Source: https://burma.irrawaddy.com/women-in-media/2017/11/08/145696.html
- ALT1: ... that in hopes of gaining good luck, young girls in the Alantaya area were offering their first virginity to Khun Tan, who claimed to be the future Buddha? Source: https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/police-hunt-man-claimed-next-buddha-abuse-young-women.html
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- Neither hook meets WP:DYKBLP. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. How about the news hooks below:
ALT1-a: ... that, in hopes of gaining good luck, six girls from the Alantaya area were married to Khun Tan, a layman who claimed to be the future Buddha?
ALT1-b: ... that Khun Tan, a young guy, is worshipped as a bodhisattva in the Alantaya religious area?
ALT1-c: ... that girls in the Alantaya religious area believe that marrying the layman Khun Tan would bring blessings? Hteiktinhein (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Genocide in the Hebrew Bible
- ... that the biblical command to "spare no one" has been applied to Native Americans, Rwandan Tutsi, and Palestinians?
(t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- I don't see the hook in the article. It is OR to interpret labelling one's enemy "Amalek" as applying biblical command to "spare no one". I haven't checked the sources, but the article does not support the hook. Srnec (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well, the original hook I was thinking of is ALT1 below but I wasn't sure if it would be accepted either.
- ALT1: ... that genocide in the Hebrew Bible has been cited as an inspiration by the Crusaders, Rwandan Hutu, and Israeli leaders? (t · c) buidhe 02:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a stab at this. I trust Buidhe to be the subject expert and do good research, but I concur that the section on "Justification for violence" here is a bit underdeveloped for the hooks proposed. I can't find the text of the article clearly confirming ALT0. As for ALT1, I'd ask "justification for what"? Carrying genocide? But that is not clear from the short quote about Pope Urban in the 11th century and then... Martin Luther? Did Luther called or tried to justify some genocide? I'd ask for that section to be expanded, clearly stating who said what, and in particular, who might have tried to justify genocide. The second paragraph in that section is more clear, and perhaps an ALT2 about "Genocide in the Hebrew Bible being used by Israeli leaders to justify their actions in the Israel-Hamas war" might be fine, and would probably draw more views too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alt1 isn't about justification, rather inspiration. Leaving aside Luther's arguably genocidal stated beliefs about Jewish people, something along the lines of your hook may be better. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Israeli leaders have described their enemies in the current Gaza war as targets of divinely commanded genocide?
(t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think most readers would probably still interpret that as "Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza because the Bible told them to", which I don't see support for in the sourcing. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:33, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 21
[edit]Stadionverbot Decision
- ... that the German Federal Constitutional Court made a ruling on the permissibility of a nationwide 2-year stadium ban almost a decade after its end?
- Source: https://www.lto.de/recht/nachrichten/n/bverfg-1bvr308009-bundesweite-stadionverbote-mittelbare-drittwirkung-grundrechte-hausrecht-dfb Das Bundesverfassungsgericht (BVerfG) hat die Verfassungsbeschwerde eines mit einem bundesweiten Stadionverbot belegten Fußballfans als unbegründet zurückgewiesen (Beschl. v. 11.04.2018, Az. 1 BvR 3080/09). Die Verbote dürften aber mit Blick auf das Gleichheitsgebot nicht willkürlich festgesetzt werden und müssten auf einem sachlichen Grund beruhen, entschied der Erste Senat in einem am Freitag veröffentlichten Beschluss. Für ein Stadionverbot reiche allerdings schon die Sorge, dass von einer Person die Gefahr künftiger Störungen ausgehe. Nach einem Auswärtsspiel des FC Bayern München gegen den MSV Duisburg im Jahr 2006 kam es außerhalb des Stadions zu Auseinandersetzungen zwischen den Fangruppen. Die Polizei nahm daraufhin 50 Personen in Gewahrsam, unter ihnen der damals 16-jährige Beschwerdeführer. Gegen ihn wurde dann ein Verfahren wegen Landfriedensbruchs eingeleitet, das später wegen Geringfügigkeit eingestellt wurde. Nach der Einleitung des Ermittlungsverfahrens sprach der MSV Duisburg im Namen des Deutschen Fußballbundes (DFB) ein zweijähriges, bundesweites Stadionverbot gegen den 16-Jährigen aus. Gestützt wurde das Verbot auf die Stadion-Verbotsrichtlinien des DFB. Trotz der späteren Verfahrenseinstellung entschieden der MSV und der DFB ohne Anhörung des zur Münchener Ultra-Szene gehörenden Jugendlichen, das Verbot aufrecht zu erhalten.
- https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/DE/2018/04/rs20180411_1bvr308009.html (11. April 2018) “Mit Schreiben vom 18. April 2006 sprach die Beklagte daraufhin gegenüber dem Beschwerdeführer ein bundesweites Stadionverbot für die Dauer vom 18. April 2006 bis zum 30. Juni 2008 aus”
- ALT1: ... that a ruling on the permissibility of stadium bans by the German Federal Constitutional Court could obligate certain private actors to follow constitutional law? Source: Towfigh, Emanuel V.; Gleixner, Alexander (2022). Smartbook Grundrechte: ein hybrides Lehrbuch mit 67 Lernvideos [Smartbook Fundamental Rights: a hybrid textbook with 67 learning videos]. NomosStudium (in German) (1. Auflage ed.). Baden-Baden: Nomos. pp. 57–58. ISBN 978-3-7489-1119-7. “Darüber hinaus beschäftigt sich das BVerfG erstmals mit der Wirkung des allgemeinen Gleichheitssatzes (Art. 3 Abs. 1 GG) im Privatrecht.39 Eine mittelbare Drittwirkung des allgemeinen Gleichheitssatzes ist vor allem mit Blick auf die im Privatrecht geltende Privatautonomie problematisch, die es gerade erlaubt, die Vertragspartner frei auszuwählen und grds. Kontraktionszwang unterbindet - was im Umkehrschluss als Freiheit zu diskriminieren interpretiert werden kann. Das BVerfG stellt daher ausdrücklich fest, dass der allgemeine Gleich-heitssatz kein objektives Verfassungsrecht enthält, wonach Rechtsverhältnisse zwischen Privaten prinzipiell gleichheitsgerecht auszugestalten seien. Auf den konkreten Fall gewendet: Die mit dem Stadionverbot einhergehende Ungleichbehandlung des Fans gegenüber denjenigen, die das Stadion besuchen dürfen, ist nicht schon per se verfassungswidrig. Die Gleichheitsbindung privater Akteure begründet das BVerfG erst in „spezifischen Konstellationen" (§ 3 Rn. 44 f.): Ein allgemeiner Grundsatz, wonach private Vertragsbeziehungen jeweils den Rechtfertigungsanforderungen des Gleichbehandlungsgebots unterlägen, folgt demgegenüber aus Art. 3 Abs. 1 GG auch im Wege der mittelbaren Drittwirkung nicht. [...] Gleichheitsrechtliche Anforderungen für das Verhältnis zwischen Privaten können sich aus Art. 3 Abs. 1 GG jedoch für spezifische Konstellationen erge-ben. Eine solche Konstellation liegt dem hier in Frage stehenden bundesweit gültigen Stadionverbot zugrunde. Maßgeblich für die mittelbare Drittwirkung des Gleichbehandlungsgebots ist dessen Charakter als einseitiger, auf das Hausrecht gestützter Ausschluss von Veranstaltungen, die aufgrund eigener Entscheidung der Veranstalter einem großen Publikum ohne Ansehen der Person geöffnet werden und der für die Betroffenen in erheblichem Umfang über die Teilnahme am gesellschaftlichen Leben entscheidet. Indem ein Privater eine solche Veranstaltung ins Werk setzt, erwächst ihm von Verfassungs wegen auch eine besondere rechtliche Verantwortung. Er darf seine hier aus dem Hausrecht - so wie in anderen Fällen möglicherweise aus einem Monopol oder aus struktureller Überlegenheit - resultierende Entscheidungsmacht nicht dazu nutzen, bestimmte Personen ohne sachlichen Grund von einem solchen Ereignis auszuschließen. Die Fachgerichte haben daher sicherzustellen, dass das Stadionverbot nicht willkürlich erlassen worden ist. Das BVerfG etabliert dabei Hürden aus der verwaltungsrechtlichen Dogmatik:41 Es bedarf eines sachlichen Grundes und einer Anhörung der jeweiligen Betroffenen. Das führt letztlich zu einer „situativ staatsgleichen Grundrechtsbindung privater Akteure".”
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I’m open to alternative hooks, as the case is somewhat complicated and other aspects may be more interesting to an international audience. Thank you!
FortunateSons (talk) 12:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: @FortunateSons: I think this needs a bit of copyediting:
The Stadionverbots-Entscheidung (Beschl. v. 11.04.2018, Az. 1 BvR 3080/09)[1] (literally: Stadium-Ban-Decision, also known as the Stadionverbots-Beschluss) is a decision by the Bundesverfassungsgericht, the German federal constitutional court, in which a football fan unsuccessfully attempted to have his ban from German stadiums to be found to be unlawful.
- Do you mean "a football fan unsuccessfully attempted to have his ban from German stadiums" rescinded or repealed? "To be found to be unlawful" doesn't really work. Viriditas (talk) 22:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- perhaps „retroactively declared to be unlawful“? FortunateSons (talk) 14:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
The court set a higher standard for banning a fan from all stadiums for alleged misconduct, declaring some applicability of mittelbare Drittwirkung in regards to procedural rights and equality to their treatment of fans.
- You will need to very briefly explain mittelbare Drittwirkung. For example you could do it like this: "The court set a higher standard for banning a fan from all stadiums for alleged misconduct, declaring some applicability of mittelbare Drittwirkung, a legal concept unique to European jurisprudence, in regards to procedural rights and equality to their treatment of fans." Viriditas (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're right. But not necessarily for the hook, just in the article, right? Do we need a definition in the lead as well? FortunateSons (talk) 15:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't addressed the hooks yet. I'm not convinced the current hooks are that interesting. Viriditas (talk) 20:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note, the below sources translate mittelbare Drittwirkung as "the doctrine of the indirect horizontal effects of fundamental rights". Viriditas (talk) 21:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Nice catch. I added the translation, I think it’s probably best cited to the primary sources below, right? FortunateSons (talk) 09:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @FortunateSons: I think we really need to focus on clearly describing the topic in English. I'm seeing a few English sources that do just that.[14] So, some questions. Should the English article title be in German or in English, such as "Stadium ban decision"? No strong feelings, but we should see what policy says. Also, what year did the decision take place, 2009? If so, say that in the first sentence. Finally, try to simplify the outcome. I see two English language sources that do just this.[15][16] There are likely more. Viriditas (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- WP:TRANSLITERATE seems to be dictate that we use the English title, to the best of my understanding. If you agree, I’m happy to move it. Regarding dates: the incident was in 2006, the ban lasted from 2006 to 2008, the decision was in 2018. Which date are you referring to? Thank you for the English sources, I missed those. :)FortunateSons (talk) 09:49, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FortunateSons: The date of the final decision should appear in the lead, as should a brief description of the incident and ban dates. If you feel comfortable moving the page, then feel free to do so. Viriditas (talk) 19:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, I will move the page. The date for the decision is already in the lead (as it is part of how the cases are cited, with DD/MM/YYYY), and I will add the year for the incident and ban (2006), or do we need the specific dates? In scientific secondary sources, they generally don’t go in depth beyond the year, if I remember correctly. FortunateSons (talk) 21:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Do it however you want, but I don't see any dates in the lead in plain text, just in the case format, which isn't explicit to the general reader. Sometimes a bit of redundancy helps. Also, more dates and explanation might be needed per the above. Viriditas (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added the years, and some additional context to the lead. Not sure on grammar/style, what do you think? FortunateSons (talk) 12:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- You nailed it! It's a huge improvement. Now, what are we going to do about the hooks? Viriditas (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I’m really not sure about the hooks. The link between football and social media or alternatively the duration of the ban compared to the duration of the legal process might be most interesting to someone with no connection to the subject, but I could be missing the forest for the trees here? FortunateSons (talk) 00:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
@FortunateSons: Why do you have Bundesverfassungsgericht in italics, but not Bundesgerichtshof? Same thing with Drittwirkung, which appears as Drittwirkung later on in the articlce. Viriditas (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Initial review
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Overall: Article was new and long enough on 21 September when it was moved from draft to mainspace. I don't like the current hooks, partly because of the way they are written, and partly because I don't find them interesting per se, but they might be more interesting if they were rewritten. The nominator has shown that they acknowledge there are more interesting hooks to be had, particularly in terms of the legal ramifications of the decision on social media companies. I would encourage the nominator to work the kinks out and add more hooks to choose from to this nomination, or failing that, rewrite the current ones. Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape
- ... that the last recording by Toby Keith before his death was a cover of Joe Diffie's "Ships That Don't Come In" on the tribute album Hixtape: Vol. 3: Difftape?
Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC).
Jeya Wilson
- ... that Jeya Wilson invited New Zealand prime minister David Lange to debate the moral indefensibility of nuclear weapons at the Oxford Union?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sunny Choi
- Comment: DrThneed wrote the bio but she's a tad busy, hence she's asked me whether I would like to see this through the DYK process. I'm only too happy to oblige as Jeya Wilson is such a fascinating person. If you have time, I suggest you watch her opening speech at the Oxford Union debate, which is linked from the source above. And if you want to be in for a treat, wach David Lange's speech (second-to-last speaker) – an absolute stunner of a performance. Almost every New Zealander knows one of the lines that he delivered in that speech.
Schwede66 09:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 22
[edit]Meijer de Hond
- ... that Dutch rabbi Meijer de Hond (pictured), who grew up in poverty, was known as the "Volksrebbe" for his popularity among the Jewish poor of Amsterdam?
Thriley (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
Barquq Castle
- ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
- Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Please note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ must be provided at the time of the nomination or at most immediately after. The nomination may be failed without further warning if a QPQ is not provided as soon as possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 23
[edit]Korzeniacy, czyli Jesień wsamrazków
- ... that a modern Polish fairy tale, written during the time of martial law in Poland in the 1980s, mixes the themes of real-world environmental protection and fantasty-like gnomes? Source: Kowalczykówna (1989) cited in the article
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
Kichuś majstra Lepigliny
- ... that the book called "Polish Pinocchio" was published a hundred years ago? Source: https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=565123
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
Muthkwey
- ... that məθkʷəy̓ was not harvested or walked over, because it had grown from the droppings of a two-headed serpent?
- Source: "Another story tells that our ancestors had never seen this plant before, and that they considered it to be sacred because it came from sʔi:łqəy̓ (Musqueam Indian Band, 2011). Our people were not permitted to walk over or harvest it." Sparrow, Corrina (2006). "Reclaiming Spaces Between: Coast Salish Two Spirit Identities and Experiences". Bachelor of Social Work, University of Victoria: 50–51. Retrieved 20 September 2024. "muthkwey come again year come next.year muthkwey. When it was another year, next year then that plant muthkwey spread out when it grew. It bloomed like any other plant. But it was not like any other plant. The old people did not step on it. It was thought sacred. It was from the droppings of the monster, the seelthkey." Suttles, Wayne P. (2004). Musqueam Reference Grammar. Page 545 UBC Press. ISBN 978-0-7748-1002-9. Retrieved 20 September 2024
- Reviewed: Noken system
- Comment:
Will work on the QPQ shortly,thank you to the reviewer in advance! Done the QPQ!
Ornithoptera (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Ornithoptera: Just a question: is the weird spelling of the subject on purpose? IIRC, non-standard/stylized spellings are discouraged on DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5, the "weird spelling" in question is the Americanist phonetic notation that is used for Indigenous North American languages. Like many terms in the languages of the Pacific Northwest Coast, məθkʷəy̓ is not "romanized" in the traditional sense because they still use Latin characters and contemporary inclusions of the notation are often unedited, such as "ʔálʔal Café" rather than "All-all Cafe" I will provide some examples of such:
- The hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ word “məθkʷəy̓” was initially transcribed in English as “grass,” resulting in xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) People being known as “People of the River Grass.”
- The tall grass is to represent Musqueam, the flowering plant məθkʷəy̓, which grows in the Fraser River estuary. Stories have been passed on from generation to generation that explains how we became known as the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm — People of the məθkʷəy̓ plant.
- The Musqueam people are the people of the məθkʷəy̓, the river grass, and we have stewarded the mouth of the Fraser River since time immemorial.
- The name xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam) relates back to the flowering plant, məθkʷəy̓, which once abundantly grew throughout Musqueam territory.
- The məθkʷəy̓ was described as a saχʷəl, which means “grass” or "plant." It was initially transcribed to English as a grass, and for some time the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm people have been known as “people of the river grass.”
- For further reading, here is a quote from the University of British Columbia on the matter: "In the 1970’s, the Musqueam community began their journey towards language revitalization, and formally adopted the North American Phonetic Alphabet (NAPA). NAPA allows the sounds of hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓ to be more accurately conveyed in writing. The symbols that may be unfamiliar to you, including ə, q̓, θ, xʷ, and more have corresponding phonetics that you can learn in order to pronounce written hən̓q̓əmin̓əm̓."
- There is no "standard" transliteration, most English language sources refer to the plant as məθkʷəy̓ with no alteration. The article title was based on the one that Wayne Suttles employed in his 2004 Musqueam Reference Grammar, but there are multiple ways to transliterate this term without a standardized form, nor is there much of a need to, as the base of the notation are Latin characters. I thought it would be ideal to use the term with no alteration as many other sources have before. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see. I was asking because, from what I remember, DYK usually doesn't use non-Latin characters in hooks. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline about it (I think using the language template?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- To my understanding Narutolovehinata5, the Americanist phonetic notation is (to a degree) the Latin alphabet, and I'm sure there have been instances where letters such as Þ or ð have made their way into DYK before. For the record, I am comfortable with adjusting it if at the end of the day it is in violation of DYK guidelines, but I thought it might be good to have my thoughts on the matter before jumping the gun. I do hope that there isn't a double standard for some non-standard characters from certain languages over others. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I see. I was asking because, from what I remember, DYK usually doesn't use non-Latin characters in hooks. I'm pretty sure there was a guideline about it (I think using the language template?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Ngiam Tong Dow
- ... that Singapore's first and largest purchase of gold from South Africa was completed in 1968 by comparing two halves of a United States one-dollar bill?
- Source: "In 1968, we went to the World Bank meeting. The South Africans were there and we invited the South African Finance Minister to our hotel room."
"Dr Goh wanted to buy gold at a fixed price, rather than a floating market price. So we agreed to buy 100 tons, a substantial amount, at $40 US dollars." "Then he took out his US one dollar note. And sliced it into halves! Just like that. He gave half to me and said, "You keep this. I will keep the other half and my man will meet you in Switzerland."" "I handed the sliced US dollar note over. He took out the other half. It matched! The serial numbers were the same."
Ngiam, Tong Dow. A Mandarin and the Making of Public Policy: Reflections by Ngiam Tong Dow. ISBN: 978-9971-69-350-3- Reviewed:
BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 09:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
The Bear season 2
- ... that the second season of The Bear has won the most Emmys for any comedy series in a single year?
- Reviewed:
Mjks28 (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
Sonya Friedman
- ... that self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman published a book on women who were monogamous with two men at the same time?
- Source: "What binds them is their having a two-track existence that allows them to preserve their marriage while having a more fulfilling relationship. They are monogamous to two men." - In “Secret Loves” (Crown), therapist Sonya Friedman…, Chicago Tribune
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of chocolate
- Comment: The article was moved to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 23:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1 that according to self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, men are just desserts? Thriley (talk) 01:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 that according to self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, a hero is more than just a sandwich? Thriley (talk) 02:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 that self-help psychologist Sonya Friedman, encouraged women to "give up junk food love and find a naturally sweet man"? Thriley (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 24
[edit]Sankar Montoute
- ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jamaludin Malik (legislator)
- Comment: Will do QPQ within next 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).
- interesting hook. However the cited reference does not explicitly state that Sankar Montoute is the first player from Trinidad and Tobago in NFL. There are names of 5 other players from Trinidad and Tobago in this list. Cited source may be updated Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sarvagyana guru: Row five in the hook source has the dates when each of the five players started their careers. As the source states, Montoute debuted in 1987, which is earlier than the others, who played later (Curvin Richards 1991, Kerry Carter 2003, Anthony Herrera 2005, Yannik Cudjoe-Virgil 2015). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11:: You are right. Agreed. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Pleasure Garden (painting)
- ... that when the painting Pleasure Garden (pictured) was offered to the Robert McDougall Art Gallery, considerable controversy ensued?
- Source: ‘Pleasure garden’ was the first work by Hodgkins to be acquired for the collection and remains one of the most controversial acquisitions in the Gallery’s history. Further: However, a group of Christchurch subscribers did purchase ‘Pleasure garden’, and presented it to the Robert McDougall Art Gallery in 1949. The painting was rejected ‘on its [lack of] merits’. Controversy ensued and, when the work was again offered to Christchurch City Council in July 1951, it was finally taken into the Robert McDougall Art Gallery’s collection.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mayors in New Zealand
- Comment: The article was written by Manymanydogs; I merely did a bit of tidying up. A very nice piece of work and the hook would go rather well with the striking image. It's worth talking about the painting's copyright status because this may well come up. The uploader's user name is "TimJonesCAGTPoW" and that would be Tim Jones from the Christchurch Art Gallery. He's been there forever and as you can see in his profile, he has responsibility for the archives of the Robert McDougall Art Gallery. When Tim says that they (the gallery) own the copyright, and he's happy to release it under a free license, he knows exactly what he's doing. Tim works quite a bit with Wikipedians (that's how I've met him before) and he has his head around copyright.
Schwede66 04:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
Ye Gongchuo
- ... that Ye Gongchuo (pictured) worked for emperors, warlords, and republicans, before leaving politics to focus on art?
- Source: Mostly supported by Powell, J. B., ed. (1925). Who's Who in China. Shanghai: Millard's Review.; leaving politics is supported by Andrews, Julia F.; Shen, Kuiyi (2012). The Art of Modern China. Berkeley, California: University of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-23814-5.
- ALT1: ... that Ye Gongchuo (pictured) dealt duck head pills in Shanghai? Source: Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官,退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024. (他曾极力推动成立上海博物馆,后来还把重金购得的稀世珍品——晋朝王献之的《鸭头丸帖》真迹,慨然捐献给了上海博物馆。; "He had strongly promoted the establishment of the Shanghai Museum, and later donated the rare treasure he had purchased at a high price, the original copy of the "Duck Head Pills" by Wang Xianzhi of the Jin Dynasty, to the Shanghai Museum.")
- ALT2: ... that, when China needed to standardize its railway terminology, it sent for a poet? Source: Powell, J. B., ed. (1925). Who's Who in China. Shanghai: Millard's Review.; Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官,退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024. (via Guangdong Library)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team
- Comment: Yes, I know ALT1 is a bit out there. It might be worth an April Fools slot.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
Expandable card game
- ... that compared to collectible card games, expandable card games focus more on storytelling and cooperation? Source: https://www.playthepast.org/?p=6913 and its subsequent parts linked in the article as refs
- ALT1: ... that expandable card games are sometimes known as "living card games", but the latter term, while popular, is trademarked by a single company, preventing its use by competitors? Source: http://www.pairofdiceparadise.com/expandable-card-games-ecg-trademarks-patents-3-of-3-a167.php
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Genocide in the Hebrew Bible
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 25
[edit]Dalibor Riccardi
- ... that new San Marino head of state Dalibor Riccardi played over 70 matches in the country's football league?
- Source: San Marino RTV mentions (translated) "Passionate about sports, he played football at a competitive level"; Soccerway has 71 matches in national football league
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dick Moss
- Comment: It looks like I'm a few hours late. Hope that's alright.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
Kazimierz Sakowicz
- ... that Polish journalist and resistance member Kazimierz Sakowicz spent three years recording the deaths of tens of thousands in his diary, which was eventually published decades later? Source: Margolis (2005), or Wilczewski (2009), or Guesnet (2003)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is interesting and the hook is captivating and not too baity. I removed the picture of Sakowicz, because it clearly isn't him and the picture isn't from 1939.Marcelus (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 26
[edit]Ricot Joseph
- ... that Ricot Joseph was the first Haitian to play in the NFL?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Littlehampton libels
- Comment: Will do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Is there a non-primary source that supports this? Hooks shouldn't solely be based off primary-source database lookups. Also, there might be limitations on how far PFR database goes back. Someone might also be Haitian without being born there, e.g. parents, naturalized, etc. —Bagumba (talk) 10:09, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- The hook could be "... that Ricot Joseph was the first Haitian-born NFL player?" – there does seem to have been a player of Haitian descent before him (Jocelyn Borgella) – but PFR is likely right in that he was the first from Haiti (unless somehow they missed someone from between 1996-2001 which I highly doubt). There's also this book with a list of Haitian-born NFL players and by looking up the others mentioned he played the earliest. Thoughts @Bagumba:? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: I have a couple major concerns. One is that a DYK fact should be deemed interesting enough for a secondary source to have mentioned. Especially for sports, where a bevy of factoids can otherwise be queried from a database. The second concern is that neither list is definitively complete. That's where prose saying he's the first at least has the assurance that the author implicitly vouches for the statement. IIRC, DYK is also becoming more strict on "first" hook sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 19:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Culinary Class Wars
- ... that the judges of the Culinary Class Wars (pictured) were blindfolded and spoon-fed?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Magic (play)
- Comment: There's some clean-up to do now the first season has finished but it's time to make a start
Andrew🐉(talk) 20:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
- At the time of nomination the article was exactly 7 days old (which fits I guess), and the length seems to fit standard. There are some good English sources and a lot of Korean coverage, so I don't doubt that this is notable. Earwig says no copyvios, but the article is a bit messy. (Why does the "endless cooking hell" section have nothing in it, for one?) Most importantly, the hook is also little bit vague, and I don't think it would capture much attention. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 17:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- The show was released in three installments and the first season has finished now. The article has been fleshed out to complete details of all the rounds. I'm doing some further clean-up and completion. More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Hanif Kureshi
- ... that Indian street artist Hanif Kureshi, working pseudonymously as Daku, would use Google Street View images to practice his art before rendering them on the streets? Source: [Livemint]
Ktin (talk) 01:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 27
[edit]Slop (artificial intelligence)
- ... that slop emerged in 2024 over “pollution”, “garbage” and “dross” as the preferred term to describe low-quality AI-generated material?
- Reviewed: N/a
- Comment: First own DYK nomination. I like this one because a lot of people contributed (images, categorizations). Feels very fresh.
Jenny8lee (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Welcome to DYK Jenny8lee, I hope you have a wonderful time here, and I hope I can help facilitate your entry the best I can! Created and nominated within a week, long enough, sourced and neutral. QPQ not required because of the nominator being below 5 nominations. I have some questions regarding the hook, since the original article's wording was as such:
"One increasingly intuitive answer is “garbage.” The neuroscientist Erik Hoel has called it “A.I. pollution,” and the physicist Anthony Aguirre “something like noise” and “A.I.-generated dross.”"
It seems like these terms were used by one or two people, rather than being in use beyond those individuals quoted within the article. I believe it might be a good idea to re-word the hook(something along the lines of "AI slop has been referred to as "garbage", "pollution", and "dross"), or find something else altogether. The quotes within the lead of the article should be attributed to their sources as well. In addition, I'm not entirely sure whether the AI generated image is free (regarding the copyright of a derivative work, this is a fairly new policy as well). I'm going to ping @Theleekycauldron: to see what they think regarding the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: I think I'd go further than you to say that the Times source doesn't even verify that "slop" is the preeminent term! Since all AI imagery is considered public domain by Commons, public domain derivatives are a-okay. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Phoebe Plummer
... that during Phoebe Plummer's May 2024 jury trial over a climate protest, the court finished early on several days due to the heat? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/15/uk-climate-activists-convicted-in-first-trial-of-new-anti-protest-lawsALT1: ... that an October 2022 protest involving Just Stop Oil member Phoebe Plummer inspired many activists worldwide to throw food at paintings? Source: https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/11/17/just-stop-oil-phoebe-plummer-prison/- ALT2: ... that when Phoebe Plummer faced trial over the Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest, they was "unfortunate" to draw Christopher Hehir as judge? Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/30/just-stop-oil-soup-throwing-protests-moral-toddlerhood/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zero-emission zone in Oxford, Template:Did you know nominations/CyberJoly Drim, Template:Did you know nominations/Ajah Pritchard-Lolo
- Comment: Plummer was created 27 September, though I did a 5x expansion on 2 October, added Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest three days later, and added Christopher Hehir two days after that.
Launchballer 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
Beth Kempton
- ... that self-help author Beth Kempton was a cultural coordinator for the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Tokyo and the 2012 Summer Olympics in London?
SilverserenC 02:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 28
[edit]Old City of Gaza, Old City of Nablus
- ... that both the Old City of Gaza and the Old City of Nablus have been repeatedly damaged by Israeli invasion and bombardment?
- Source: Awad, Jihad (2017-01-15). "Conserving the Palestinian Architectural Heritage". International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintenance. 1 (3): 454. doi:10.2495/ha-v1-n3-451-460. ISSN 2058-833X.
The old city of Nablus has suffered, probably more than any other Palestinian city, from the massive invasion by Israeli forces during the second uprising which started in 2000. Many restoration projects were previously completed by the municipality but unfortunately destroyed by the Israeli bombing of the old city. Many buildings were heavily damaged by Israeli rockets during April 2002. A project was carried out by UNDP and funded by the Japanese government to rebuild the houses. Then in December of 2003, many houses were again damaged during Israeli military activity. This kept recurring: buildings were repaired and then damaged.
Mraffko, Clothilde; Forey, Samuel (2024-02-14). "Israeli bombs are wiping out Gaza's heritage and history". Le Monde.fr. Retrieved 2024-09-29.Whether the Israelis act intentionally or not, "the result is effectively the erasure of a heritage and a history. Symbolically, this is important because this is one of the ways in which people are attached to their territory," warned Benoît Tadié, former cultural adviser to the French consulate general in Jerusalem between 2009 and 2013. He takes as an example the Old City of Gaza, which, like much of the north of the enclave, is now a vast field of ruins. "It wasn't just a site, it was also the heart of today's city. The hammam and the Pacha's Palace were extremely popular places. The museum also served as a place of education for schoolchildren," explained Tadié.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abdul Ahad Azad and Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Jianai
Onceinawhile (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Onceinawhile: Not a review, but there are massive amounts of unsourced content in both articles and "International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintence" is coming up as deprecated/predatory on WP:UPSD. What makes it reliable?--Launchballer 22:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Launchballer. All the sources are in the bibliography - let me add in-line citations throughout where they have been missed. I will confirm when done.
- On the Jihad Awad source, I am confident that it is reliable - Professor Awad is
full professor of architecture, currently head of architecture department at Ajman University
, and this paper (a conference submission) is cited in his official University biography page. He subsequently published an article covering a similar topic here. The statement is not difficult to source elsewhere if needed. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)- Fine by me. Full review needed.--Launchballer 03:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds
- ... that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focuses on a gay man who pretends to be straight so he can seduce another man?
- Source: Cohen, Neil (November 2, 2006). "Just Desserts - 2004 Out Far! Sensation Eating Out is Back for Seconds". Echo Magazine. Archived from the original on February 24, 2007. Retrieved February 20, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds featuring a scene where a character has sex in a portable toilet caused many actors to drop out? Source: Quantic, David (May 29, 2007). "Serving Seconds: The Making of Eating Out 2". Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds. Ariztical Entertainment.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Farnese Artemis
PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but ALT0 fails WP:DYKFICTION. ALT1 should be fine on that front.--Launchballer 20:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: Thank you for contributing to the discussion. :) Taking that into account, would ALT0 work as "that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focusing on a gay man who pretends being straight to seduce another man came from writer-director Phillip J. Bartell's desire to invert the first film's premise?"? I can come up with a few alternatives if needed. PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 still violates that policy I'm afraid, and I still think ALT1 is more interesting. I would however suggest a slightly shorter version of ALT1 per WP:DYKTRIM, ALT1a: ... that a scene in Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds caused many actors to drop out?. Full review needed.--Launchballer 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can see arguments either way, I'll let a reviewer/promoter decide.--Launchballer 22:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 29
[edit]Eddie Sheldrake
- ... that before selling KFC and pies, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under coach John Wooden and broke UCLA's single-game scoring record?
- Source: "Polly’s Pies will hop back in time this week as the a local comfort food and pie chain ... Her grandfather, Eddie Sheldrake, co-founded the chain with his brother Don with their first restaurant in Fullerton in 1968 after they decided to expand from being Kentucky Fried Chicken franchisees to opening an original restaurant" (Press-Telegram) "This Angeleno is something of an oddity in basketbalL, as it is played these days, for he is a little runt of five feet-nine" (Press-Telegram) "Eddie Sheldrake, a longtime friend of Wooden, was a sophomore in his first year on the Bruins varsity the season the coach arrived." (John Wooden : An American Treasure) "The five-foot nine-inch forward broke the Southern Division basketball scoring record for a single game when he tallied 38 points in leading his team to a 90-67 triumph over Stanford Saturday night. Sheldrake’s total also broke the UCLA school record held Jointly by Don Barksdale and Bill O’Brien, with 30 points." (Citizen-News)
—Bagumba (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on September 30
[edit]Wasswa Serwanga
- ... that Wasswa Serwanga and his twin brother were the first two NFL players from Uganda?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Society for Crypto-Judaic Studies
- Comment: Could expand his twin brother's article (Kato Serwanga) to add to the hook if needed. Might also work to have a hook on the aspect of his wealthy father narrowly surviving an attempted murder from Idi Amin and selling his possessions in exchange for a plane ticket to bring Wasswa to the U.S. (not sure how it'd be best worded though...). Also, the QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
Roger Farmer (American football)
- ... that Roger Farmer was the first NFL player from Barbados?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Celie Ellis Turner
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 15:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. Recently promoted to GA status. No issues with tone / neutrality nor with plagiarism. Hook is reasonably attractive. Sourced to a NFL record sheet / database. At some point I thought DYK frowned upon hooks like "the first x from y". But, I am not able to find that discussion. Nevertheless, I am happy to mark this hook approved. That said, if the nominator wants to attempt a different hook, I am available for a review. Handing this back to the nominator. QPQ done. Ktin (talk) 15:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- This hook fails the interestingness check in my view. Someone is going to be the first NFL player from Barbados, and so all this is really telling me is that it's a guy named Roger Farmer; there's zero element of surprise. Sdkb talk 04:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Negussie Roba
- ... that Negussie Roba was an Olympic sprinter who later coached Olympic gold marathon runners?
- Source: Sydney Morning Herald
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Davis (escaped convict)
- Comment: Thought it a little interesting that a sprinter (short distance) would become one of the world's best marathon (long distance) coaches.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 1
[edit]Disputes on Wikipedia
- ... that the initial stance taken in disputes on Wikipedia, over deleting an article, can predict the result, due to the "herd effect"?
- Source: Mayfield, Elijah, and Alan W. Black. "Analyzing wikipedia deletion debates with a group decision-making forecast model." Proceedings of the ACM on Human-Computer Interaction 3, no. CSCW (2019): 1-26. See 13-14 "early voters"
- ALT1: ... that the longest "edit war" sequence among disputes on Wikipedia involved 20 editors making 108 reverts of the article on Turkey's first president, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk? Source: Chhabra, Anamika, Rishemjit Kaur, and S. R. S. Iyengar. "Dynamics of edit war sequences in Wikipedia." In Proceedings of the 16th International Symposium on Open Collaboration, pp. 1-10. 2020. see section 4.2 "Longest Edit War Sequence"
- ALT2: ... that editors often line up in rival camps during contentious disputes on Wikipedia and the winning side typically cites encyclopedic policies to favor their biased viewpoint? Source: Morris-O'Connor, Danielle A., Andreas Strotmann, and Dangzhi Zhao. "The colonization of Wikipedia: evidence from characteristic editing behaviors of warring camps." Journal of Documentation 79, no. 3 (2023): 784-810. There are other sources on rival camps.
- ALT3: ... that editors tend to exacerbate disputes on Wikipedia when they greet each during discussions, use 2nd-person pronouns, or take turns speaking? Source: de Kock, Christine; Vlachos, Andreas (April 19–23, 2021). "I Beg to Differ: A study of constructive disagreement in online conversations".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Genesis (Lebrun)
- Comment: Timing -- I created this early in term for my presentation at Wiki Conf NA, even though I couldn't edit for three days due to religious reasons. So please forgive the late submission. I see various potential hooks, let me know what seems most appealing. Will do a QPQ, I now see that's required.
ProfGray (talk) 18:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Pablo Barragán
- ... that clarinetist Pablo Barragán from Andalusia played the Clarinet Quintet by Johannes Brahms in a 2023 concert with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall? Source: [17]
- Reviewed: He Jianshi
Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 2
[edit]Henri Claireaux
- ... that Henri Claireaux was the first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon?
- Source: [18] ("Mais, plus importante fut l'introduction, pour la première fois, d'une représentation directe au Parlement français ... De 1947 à nos jours, Saint-Pierre et Miquelon a eu trois sénateurs : Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)... [But more important was the introduction, for the first time, of direct representation in the French Parliament ... From 1947 to the present day, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon has had three senators: Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)...]."); see also List of senators of Saint Pierre and Miquelon
ALT1: ... that for 22 years, Henri Claireaux was the only person to have ever represented Saint Pierre and Miquelon in the French Senate? Source: same- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fred the Head
- Comment: This would be the first DYK bio for Saint Pierre and Miquelon since 2009.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 2 October and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; the sources are either in French or paywalled so not much I can check on paraphrasing but Earwig is clear; QPQ has been carried out; I've struck ALT1, although it is supported by the source the overall length of his tenure was just shy of 22 years; on ALT0 the source and article don't say "first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon" but first to represent the place in the Senate. Unlikely I know but it leaves open the possibility that someone from there was elected to the senate as a representative of somewhere else. Perhaps AL2 below works? Happy to consider alternatives. - Dumelow (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: that Henri Claireaux was the first representative for Saint Pierre and Miquelon elected to the French Senate?
- @Dumelow: I'm fine with ALT2. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think it technically needs another reviewer to approve - Dumelow (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Genesis (Lebrun)
- ... that Rico Lebrun refused to provide the Pomona College Board of Trustees with sketches for approval of the Genesis mural (pictured) they commissioned from him? Source: Art Journal "The president of Pomona then suggested that a committee of trustees should see sketches for approval. Both Selz and Lebrun objected on the grounds that the work of a well-known artist should be evaluated on the basis of his accomplishments. The donors took the same position. After a year's delay, while Lebrun was at Yale, the president and trustees agreed to give the artist a free hand."
- ALT1: ... that Genesis (pictured) is "a religious painting created during a non-religious age"? Source: Benton Museum of Art "In the words of art historian Peter Selz, 'by and large, he stands as a controversial and solitary figure, and the Genesis mural, a religious painting created during a non-religious age, remains a unique act.'"
- ALT2: ... that Rico Lebrun's preparatory drawings for Genesis (pictured) covered most of the tables in the Pomona College dining hall where he painted it? Source: The History of Pomona College, 1887-1969 Lebrun had planned to paint the mural during the summer of 1960 and arrived in June with drawings so extensive that they covered most of the tables of Frary Hall.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rabbit
- Comment: Given that the subject is a mural, an inherently visual topic, I would much prefer this to appear with the image (even if it means having to wait longer for a slot to open).
Sdkb talk 06:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Sdkb: I think the QPQ link is broken? Have you completed a QPQ? Per a recent rule change, QPQs now have to be provided at the time of the nomination instead of up to a week after like before, so please clarify this as soon as possible if you do not want the nomination to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I was unaware of that change, Narutolovehinata5; thanks for letting me know! I've done a review and added that above. Cheers, Sdkb talk 16:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Great to see this article! One issue with the hook: it is worded fine, but the article text currently says that the Board asked for sketches, whereas the source says it was the President. Since creator requests use of image, let's get another opinion on clarity. Maybe a better image can be obtained from Pomona? This is my first DYK review, so would welcome comments or a second review. ProfGray (talk) 03:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look and doing the review, ProfGray! My understanding from the sources is that the president suggested there be a review, but that the actual review would have been done by the trustees' Buildings and Grounds committee, which is why I used the wording I did.
- Agreed with you that the alt hooks are significantly less interesting, so let's focus on ALT0.
- Also, good catch that the details are a little hard to make out at 100px. Pomona hasn't ever responded when I've asked them to donate images in the past, but luckily since the work itself is PD we don't need their permission to have some options. One is to crop the existing image a bit to zoom in. And the second is to use a detail from the center of the mural rather than trying to capture the full thing. Lmk which you prefer!
- Cheers, Sdkb talk 21:07, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Image looks better on my computer! In terms of President vs Board, I'm happy to trust your understanding of the sources, just be sure that the hook and article wording are consistent.Cheers, ProfGray (talk) 01:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Criminals (Meghan Trainor song)
- ... that the cast of The Perfect Couple created a WhatsApp group to avoid filming a dance sequence to the theme song?
- Source: NME
- ALT1: ... that Meghan Trainor's song "Criminals" being used as the theme song of The Perfect Couple fulfilled a lifelong dream of hers? Source: Today
- ALT2: ... that Spotify streams of Meghan Trainor's song "Criminals" increased by 1770% following its inclusion in The Perfect Couple, prompting her to add it to the set list of her tour? Source: Deadline
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Power of Babel
NØ 20:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but if we go with ALT1, I recommend trimming "being used as the theme song of The Perfect Couple".--Launchballer 16:33, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 3
[edit]Brick by Brick: How Lego Rewrote the Rules of Innovation
- ... that a 2013 book about how the The Lego Group reinvented itself became a popular business text? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/04/how-lego-clicked-the-super-brand-that-reinvented-itself
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC).
Light Weight Air Warning Radar
- ... that the Australian Light Weight Air Warning Radar was designed to break down into waterproof containers that fit in the Douglas DC-2, were taken ashore from a trawler in canoes, and in one case manpacked up 200 foot cliffs? Source: Minnett and Briton both detail the waterproof aspect and DC-2, Minnett relates it being brought ashore by canoe and quotes the cliffs
- Reviewed: Sanjna
Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
Stuntman (2024 film)
- ... that to capture the essence of 1980s-style action film, the opening fight scenes of Stuntman were filmed on the escalators of an old shopping arcade?
- Source: [2]
- ALT1: ... that Stephen Tung was cast in Stuntman because the directors envisioned someone who had co-starred with Bruce Lee for the lead role? Source: [3]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Uwe Holmer
- Comment: The article has been expanded from 1,577 characters (Special:Diff/1247900648) to 10,978 characters.
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 06:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ "Jewish dairy restaurant: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia". en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 2024-10-13.
- ^ 彭麗芳 (20 September 2024). "《武替道》導演:找一個方法繼續走下去". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 30 September 2024.
電影開首完美還原一九八○年代港產經典武打戲場景和老舊質感,包括在尖東半島中心幾層樓和扶手電梯之間追逐打鬥、從九龍海旁天橋一躍而下到貨車頂等等。
[The film's opening perfectly recreates the classic action scenes and vintage feel of 1980s Hong Kong films, including chase fights between several floors and escalators at Peninsula Centre, East Tsim Sha Tsui, as well as jumping from the Kowloon waterfront overpass onto the roof of a truck.] - ^ "《武替道》兄弟導演致敬港產動作片 伍允龍夥董瑋演繹武師辛酸". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). 18 September 2024. Retrieved 30 September 2024.
Albert透露他們常到尖東星光大道一間咖啡店構思劇本,有次留意到咖啡店外設於星光大道的李小龍銅像,但如今像被置於一旁,予人一種不再重要的感覺。兩人坦言:「始終李小龍令香港動作電影變得知名。」因此深思現時香港有誰曾跟李小龍同框出現過,便即時想起董瑋參演《龍爭虎鬥》中「Don' t look at my finger」的經典對白,認為若戲中有Dee哥望着李小龍銅像一幕,對武師題材的電影帶有一份深厚的意思。
[Albert [Leung] revealed that they often go to a café at the Avenue of Stars to brainstorm for the script. One time, they noticed the statue of Bruce Lee located on the promenade outside the café, but now it seems to have been set aside, giving off a sense of being unimportant. The two admitted, "After all, Bruce Lee made Hong Kong action films famous." This led them to reflect on who in Hong Kong has appeared alongside Bruce Lee, and they immediately recalled Stephen Tung’s classic line "Don't look at my finger" from The Big Boss. They believed that if there were a scene in the film with Tung looking at the Bruce Lee statue, it would add a profound significance to a film about martial artists.]
E-Defense
- ... that E-Defense (pictured) is the world's largest 3D earthquake shake table?
―Panamitsu (talk) 06:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC).
- By coincidence, I was actually happening to look up discussions of "Guinness records" in WP's project-space pages hours before press time. From what I've gathered, Guinness World Records was a more reliable source before ownership changes during the 2000s decade,The studio behind Thomas the Tank Engine, of all companies, owned it at one point—true story and newer record categories may or may not hold scrutiny by the standards of WP or the expectations of other editors. Leaving it to other DYK reviewers to decide whether this case should be accepted. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 06:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looking through the Guinness World Record Site, it's one of those records that nobody else seems to be able to apply for anymore. (And given that our own article describes Guinness as
a native advertising company, with no clear distinction between content and advertisement
, even if this isn't one of their pay-to-play records we have no way of knowing if its accurate anymore). Looking at the paper, the other source provided for the claim, the first author "was inaugurating director of E-Defense". This hook will need much better sourcing. Or a different hook? @Panamitsu:. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've also nominated the image for deletion at Commons as a copyvio. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:48, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Slgrandson, GreenLipstickLesbian, do you think this is a good source? https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428670-100-japans-record-breaking-quake-shaking-table/ ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have had a look too. I think that the New Scientist source holds up, but I also see that there is new earthquake shaking system being built in China (Tianjin Uni, National Facility for Earthquake Engineering .. https://instrumentation.co.uk/mts-awarded-seismic-simulation-project-for-chinas-national-facility-for-earthquake-engineering-simulation/) that will become the biggest shake table (20m x 16 m) when commissioned in the next year or so. It might be better to try a new hook:
- Looking through the Guinness World Record Site, it's one of those records that nobody else seems to be able to apply for anymore. (And given that our own article describes Guinness as
- ALT1 ... that when it was commissioned in 2005, E-Defense was the world's largest 3D earthquake shake table? Chaiten1 (talk) 19:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of the DYK process, the article is new enough, and free from copyvio. QPQ has been done. I think that what remains to be done is to adjust the hook; to tweak the text in the lede of the article, for consistency, and include the fact quoted in the hook with a citation in the main body of the article. @Panamitsu: Chaiten1 (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 4
[edit]Maria Muntañola Cvetković
- ... that Maria Muntañola Cvetković was once said to be the only mycologist to be a professor of mycology? Source: Que nosaltres sapiguem, és l’única micòloga que hagi ostentat el títol de professor de Micologia (a Espanya, tots els micòlegs acadèmics som professors de botànica, de microbiologia, de fitopatologia o de dermatologia)./As far as we know, she is the only mycologist who has held the title of professor of Mycology (in Spain, all academic mycologists are professors of botany, microbiology, phytopathology or dermatology).
- ALT1: ... that after fleeing to Argentina as a Spanish Civil War refugee, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts? Source: Degut a les condicions cada vegada més precàries durant la Guerra Civil, la seva família es traslladà a Buenos Aires, Argentina ... on Maria Muntañola acabà els seus estudis de Secundària./Due to increasingly precarious conditions during the [Spanish] Civil War, her family moved to Buenos Aires, Argentina ... where Maria Muntañola finished her High School studies.
- ALT2: ... that after being born in Spain and educated in Argentina, Maria Muntañola Cvetković became one of Yugoslavia's first microfungi experts? Source: the doyen of Yugoslav and Serbian mycology, Prof. Dr. Maria Muntañola Cvetković ... born in Barcelona in 1923, and later moved with her family to Argentina ... she was one of the first mycologists in Yugoslavia that studied microfungi
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/June Franklin
- Comment: ALT0 was the toughest one to work with, given that Richard P. Korf was also professor of mycology 1961-1992, but I still found it intriguing enough to have nonetheless.
ミラP@Miraclepine 19:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
History Instructing Youth
- ... that the 1896 History Instructing Youth (pictured) is a US one-dollar bill featuring a woman on the obverse and the reverse?
- Source: Source for description of image and source for name of the bill. and Martha Washington’s portrait appeared on the 1886 and 1891 series of one-dollar silver certificates. Her portrait was used again next to her husband, George, on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency
- ALT1: ... that History Instructing Youth (pictured) was part of the1896 Educational Series of US paper money and features books on the obverse? Source: source for description of image and source for name of the bill.
- ALT2: ... that the scene on the obverse of the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured) is an allegorical depiction of a teacher? Source: source
- ALT3: ... that Martha Washington's portrait on the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured) was the last time a woman was featured on US paper money? Source: Martha Washington, the United States's initial first lady, appeared on U.S. $1 silver certificates in 1886, 1891 and 1896. and on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency and Martha Washington’s portrait appeared on the 1886 and 1891 series of one-dollar silver certificates. Her portrait was used again next to her husband, George, on the back of the 1896 one-dollar note. Martha Washington remained the only woman whose image has been featured prominently on U.S. paper currency
- ALT4: ... that it took Charles Schlecht more than two years to engrave the plate for the 1896 US one-dollar silver certificate (pictured)? Source: Schlecht began work on the engraving for the obverse in August on 1892 and completed his work on January 1, 1895.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/University Village (Manhattan)
- Comment: There is also language about this being the most beautiful US paper money but it is subjective and requires attribution. There is also the
Bruxton (talk) 15:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
Echoes of Life Tour
- ... that the Echoes of Life Tour, a tour of solo ice shows in Japan by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu, opens on his 30th birthday on December 7, 2024?
- Source: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com)
- Reviewed:
Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - refer to comments
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed: - none used
- Used in article: - N/A
- Clear at 100px: - N/A
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for taking on this review! I was not sure about the hook myself. Alternatives could be that it's (1) the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced or (2) that the show deals with the ethics of artificial intelligence among others (which is a rather unusual topic for an entertainment event). Do you think, that might work? If yes, I will try to figure out how to phrase and source the hook best. Henni147 (talk) 07:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the current hook would pass scrutiny per WP:DYKSO:
The hook should not put emphasis on a commercial release date of the article subject.
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think the current hook would pass scrutiny per WP:DYKSO:
Richard Alan Masters
- ... that Richard Masters' design for a United States quarter dollar coin commemorating the National Park of American Samoa, featuring a fruit bat, fueled since-debunked conspiracy theories that the US government was involved in spreading COVID-19?
- Reviewed:
Hyungsubshim (talk) 18:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
- You do mean the quarter, right? Not the national park itself. Daniel Case (talk) 02:49, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- The current hook is far above the 200-character limit and thus cannot be used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)
- ... that Leonardo DiCaprio was set to star in the film adaptation of Leonardo da Vinci?
―Panamitsu (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
Fawzia Amin Sido
- ... that Fawzia Amin Sido, who was abducted during the Yazidi genocide and forced to marry a Palestinian ISIS fighter, was rescued from Gaza in an operation involving the Israeli army, the US and others?
- Reviewed:
Galamore (talk) 09:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC).
- The sources used (VoA & BBC) don't even mention any involvement of Israeli forces except a spokesperson saying: "The Israeli military said Ms Sido was eventually freed during a "complex operation coordinated between Israel, the United States, and other international actors" and taken to Iraq via Israel and Jordan". … Iraqi foreign ministry official Silwan Sinjaree told Reuters that several earlier attempts to rescue her over the course of about four months failed because of the security situation in Gaza.
So according to the sources, Israel was certainly involved and probably partly enabled her escape, but also the security situation in Gaza had actually delayed her rescue.
That this is a remarkably heartbreaking story is not disutable, that she was rescued as a result of Israeli army actions seems pure spin based on these sources.Pincrete (talk) 14:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 5
[edit]Sanewashing
- ... that journalists can avoid sanewashing with the truth sandwich technique?
- Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05.
So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
- ALT1: ... that Rob Tornoe wrote in Editor & Publisher that journalists can avoid sanewashing with the truth sandwich technique? Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05.
So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chili Williams
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Neknampur Lake
- ... that Neknampur Lake restoration has been recognised as a role model in the ‘watershed development’ category' along with four other projects in India?
- ALT1: ... that the restoration of Neknampur Lake was recognised as the best model of lake restoration in India? Source: * [5] [6] [7]
- Reviewed:
Sarvagyana guru (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ "Neknampur Lake Restoration Gets NITI Aayog Recognition".
- ^ "Rejuvenated Neknampur lake wins Niti Aayog laurels".
- ^ "Neknampur lake gets Niti Aayog's recognition".
- ^ "Once a dumpyard, this Hyderabad lake is now a hub for eco-friendly events".
- ^ "Neknampur lake: Private entity's sustainable restoration earns recognition from CSE".
- ^ "Neknampur lake garners accolades for restoration".
- ^ "Restoration of Neknampur Lake receives praise".
Jurong East MRT station
- ... that it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to have a recurring disco to increase its vibrancy?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Add wikilinks for 'Jurong East MRT station'
Imbluey2 . Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC).
- Claiming this for review and hope to get to this within the next few days. For what it's worth I like the hook and think it's interesting. I've made some copyedits to the hook such as linking and bolding. Given that the nominator is Imbluey2 and not ZKang123, no QPQ is necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- The newspaper said a reoccurring disco in the station. It should be added to the hook as "it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to host a reoccurring disco party to increase its vibrancy?". Maybe modify the "reoccuring" part since it doesn't really flow well imo. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 fixed the DYK hook to "a recurring disco" since the newspaper source said that it was proposed for people to host a disco. Yeo's quote of justifying his proposal implied that the disco would recurring ("maybe in the evenings", evenings in this context implies reccurance imo). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 10:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC) Note: I did not promote it to GA status, it was ZKang123. I just did some minor edits including the disco one.
- I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 6
[edit]Sajou no Hana
- ... that the name of the Japanese band Sajou no Hana (vocalist pictured) has no official meaning? Source: [19] "キタニ アルファベットにしたのは、意味を規定し過ぎない方が音楽を聴いてもらうときに余計なバイアスがかからないと思ったからで。はっきりと意味を伝えたいわけではなくて、一つのイメージに捉われるよりもいろいろなイメージを持ってもらった方がいいと思ったから。"
- ALT1: ... that Sajou no Hana's (vocalist pictured) name is written with Latin characters instead of Japanese to prevent listeners from developing a bias when listening to their music? Source: Same source as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jehovah's Witnesses in Singapore
- Comment: Slightly above the seven day requirement if going by a strict interpretation, so asking for an extension per the built-in one-two days extension guideline. Additional hook wordings are appreciated. Special thanks to Bremps who suggested a similar wording to ALT0 over at Discord. ALT0's wording could also be changed from "official" to "public" depending on how the source is interpreted.
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
John Hawks (architect)
- ... that John Hawks was the first professionally-trained architect to stay in the Thirteen Colonies?
- Source: https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/hawks-john Carraway, Gertrude S. (1988). "Hawks, John". NCpedia. State Library of North Carolina.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arndt Jorgens
- Comment: My apologies for being two days past the deadline. I was traveling and forgot to nom this until now.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Middle East International
- ... that in 1970 Sheikh Zayed, of the United Arab Emirates, gave £40,000 to Margaret McKay MP, to fund a "pro-Arab" PR campaign, and gave Christopher Mayhew MP £50,000 to start a bimonthly magazine, Middle East International?
- Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23604055?read-now=1&seq=21 Lionel Kochan p.214 requires registering to read
- Reviewed:
Padres Hana (talk) 15:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
ZIZ
- ... that a 1962 calypso song commemorated the relaunch of Saint Kitts and Nevis radio station ZIZ?
- Source: Daniel, Morven I. Alecia (2001-04-12). American Neocolonialism? The Impact of United States Cable Television on the Culture of St. Kitts (Thesis). Carleton University/National Library of Canada. pp. 71–72. ISBN 0-612-61320-8. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via Library and Archives Canada.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Typhoon Virginia (1957)
- Comment: It all started last weekend when I Googled up "Caribbean broadcasting call signs" while browsing results for various regional TV stations on a whim. A GBooks result offered a tidbit on an entity called VP2LO, a shortwave outlet that in the years ahead evolved into the Kittitian national broadcaster--a topic I broke ground on back in my early days on WP. (I was lucky to save it from A7 during its December 2007 launch--barely.) Face it, WP is still in dire need of better and more extensive coverage on Caribbean media.
- Apologies if I used a thesis here, but regrettably, it's the only source mentioning this factoid--anywhere--as far as Google's aware (WP:AGF). Meanwhile, as I type, Doc Taxon at WP:RX has been taking care of the last three bits we need to get this finished.
- First of two DYK candidates of mine before Milton approaches my home area; see you in another couple of hours with the next one.
- P.S. Wonder if there are any established editors from Saint Kitts and Nevis itself? (I myself hail from Dominica.)
- P.P.S. As always, special greetings to Barbados' CaribDigita (talk · contribs) and Trinidad's Guettarda (talk · contribs)--along with SafariScribe (talk · contribs), who approved one of my recent go-rounds at AFC, The Right and the Wrong.
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC).
HMNZS Manawanui (2019)
- ... that the Royal New Zealand Navy dive and hydrographic vessel Manawanui (pictured) sank off Samoa in October 2024?
- Source: "The HMNZS Manawanui, a specialist dive and hydrographic vessel worth $100m, sank this morning after it ran aground on a reef off the coast of the Samoan island of Upolu and caught fire last night." from: "He said losing one of the Navy's five crewed ships, the first to be lost in peacetime, was "significant"." from: "HMNZS Manawanui crew and passengers rescued after ship runs aground in Samoa". New Zealand Defence Force. Archived from the original on 6 October 2024. Retrieved 6 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that in October 2024 the Manawanui became the first Royal New Zealand Navy vessel to be lost in peacetime? Source: "He said losing one of the Navy's five crewed ships, the first to be lost in peacetime, was "significant"." from: "HMNZS Manawanui crew and passengers rescued after ship runs aground in Samoa". New Zealand Defence Force. Archived from the original on 6 October 2024. Retrieved 6 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Catharina Weiss
- Comment: Currently nominated at ITN, but not gaining much traction. Will withdraw if it is posted there. Lots of edits over the past days, I have tried to pick out the most significant contributors so far but happy for more to be added.
Dumelow (talk) 07:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 7
[edit]The Children's Book of Virtues
- ... that two U.S. best-seller lists initially classified The Children's Book of Virtues as nonfiction, but later moved it to their fiction charts?
- Source: "Book Notes: Fiction, Nonfiction or Both?". The New York Times. 1995-11-08. p. C.17. Retrieved 2024-10-08 – via ProQuest.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
- Comment: One of two follow-ups to my expansion campaign for fellow DYK stalwart The Book of Virtues, the other being The Moral Compass. My final candidate in this arena before Milton's impact where I live; wish me safety, take care, and I'll see you back. (With special thanks to this selection's AFC approver,
Sir MemeGod (talk · contribs)Bkissin (talk · contribs).)
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod 12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Sir MemeGod: Sorry, I mixed up my reviewers days ago; see above for correction. (You actually approved Children's, while Bkissin approved Compass.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod 12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Texas and Pacific 610
- ... that after the Texas and Pacific 610 locomotive was retired from service in 1950, it was donated to Fort Worth, Texas, publisher Amon G. Carter and became named after philosopher Will Rogers?
- Source: Heinecke, Harry (January 28, 1951). "City, Show and T&P Officials Help 'Bed Down' Old 610 in Its Last Stall". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 362. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
- "T&P Steam Locomotive, Gift to City Will Keep Iron Horse Memories Alive". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Vol. 17, no. 353. January 19, 1951. p. 1 – via Newspapers.com.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I honestly only want to know what earning the DYK nomination is like, after successfully nominating two pages the Good Article grade. I just wasn’t sure which fact is the most interesting in No. 610’s page.
Someone who likes train writing (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I think this would be a better hook:
- ...that after being bought for $1 to save it from scrapping, Texas and Pacific 610 was one of three steam locomotives to pull the 1976 American Freedom Train commemorating the United States Bicentennial?
- I'm not certain which sources in the article support this, but I'm sure you can provide them, @Someone who likes train writing:. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment That actually sounds better. Thank you, @Trainsandotherthings:. Here are a couple of sources that back this fact up.:
- Marrs, Jim (February 25, 1976). "Hundreds Due to Greet Engine 610". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. p. 4 – via Newspapers.com.
- Boyd, Jim (February 1978). "Tales of a lanky Texan". Railfan. Vol. 2, no. 2. Carstens Publications. p. 31.
LaTasha Barnes
- ... that one of the most popular places to learn swing dance and lindy hop is in Malmo, Sweden?
- Reviewed:
Wroliver (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Wroliver, the article says onyl that the "Herrang Dance Camp is one of the most popular places in Europe to learn swing dance and Lindy Hop" and is sourced to its Wikipedia article. This wouldn't be acceptable and would need an independent source. Additionally it doesn't seem to have much to do with the subject of the article LaTasha Barnes, a hook focussing on her would be preferred. Finally, the article has been tagged for promotional tone and unclear citations that needs resolving before it can be posted - Dumelow (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 8
[edit]Diane Leather
- ... that Diane Leather was the first woman to run a mile in under five minutes?
Oldelpaso (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Amaury du Closel
- ... that conductor and composer Amaury du Closel (pictured) founded the Forum Voix Etouffées to revive the music of composers whose voices were silenced by totalitarian regimes of the 20th century? Source: [20]
- Reviewed: Methuselah (lungfish)
- Comment: On the Main page RD but without blurb, so still eligible
Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Misery (play)
- ... that there are four Finnish-languaged Misery plays called Piina based on William Goldman's screenplay of the 1990 film Misery?
- Reviewed:
Juustila (talk) 11:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Juustila: Please provide QPQs, as the nomination may be closed without further warning if they are not provided promptly. In addition, is only Piina nominated for DYK, or also Misery? Right now only Piina is bolded, but if both articles are being nominated for a double hook, Misery needs to be bolded and two QPQs need to be given. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I decided to put the nomination to mean only Misery. Juustila (talk) 17:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
School lunch in Japan
- ... that schools in Toyama Prefecture serve crabs in school meals?
- Reviewed:
I was thinking of an ALT hook that comes with the image... But I scrapped it. oops ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 04:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
- I'll review this. Thriley (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Chinese Garden MRT station
- ... that despite being next to the eponymous Chinese Garden, the Chinese Garden MRT station in Singapore did not have direct access to the garden until a year later?
- ALT1: ... that there was no direct access from the opposite side of the Chinese Garden MRT station in Singapore despite most of its commuters living there? Source: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19881129-1.2.35.3.1?qt=%22chinese+garden%22%2c+dash
- ALT2: ... that the lack of direct access from the opposite side of the Chinese Garden MRT station in Singapore caused commuters to dangerously cross the road to get to the station? Source: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19881129-1.2.35.3.1?qt=%22chinese+garden%22%2c+dash
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Third hook might not be that interesting. Also, sources for hook 1 stated that the "direct access" to the station was a footpath as well as temporary bridge before being replaced by a permanent bridge
Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 12:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on October 9
[edit]Church of the East in Sichuan
- ... that the ruins of the East Syriac church Pearl Temple are the subject of Du Fu's poem "The Stone Shoots: A Ballad"?
- Source: Duan, Yuming (1993). "云南景教考" [A Study on East Syriac Christianity in Yunnan]. Journal of Yunnan Nationalities University (Social Sciences Edition). p. 59; Enoki, Kazuo (1947). "成都の石筍と大秦寺" [Bamboo-shoot-like Menhir in Chêng-tu and Nestorian Church]. Journal of the Research Department of the Toyo Bunko. pp. 108–109.
- Reviewed:
Uriel1022 (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
MrBeast Lab
- ... that the MrBeast Lab toy line first debuted in a pop-up store in the shape of an overturned tanker truck carrying toxic waste?
Johnson524 17:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Manga and anime fandom in Poland
- ... that one of the oldest European manga and anime fandoms is located in Poland, dating to the mid-90s? Source: Reczulski (2023, pp. 117–118, 266) - book is in Polish, but open access as a pdf so a dedicated reader can translate it via machine translation, if you don't want to just AGF
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)
- ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" is a mosquito repellent?
- Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- ALT1: ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" protects against dengue fever? Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Get the Hell Out
- Comment: My attempts at quirky hooks.
Skyshiftertalk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
- Might I suggest ALT2:
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): this is a very good one that I support! Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: The rules recently changed per a WT:DYK discussion as part of an anti-backlog campaign and to prevent QPQ-less nominations from languishing without a QPQ indefinitely. Now, a QPQ must be given when or shortly after the nomination is created, and a nomination without a QPQ may be closed without warning if none is provided immediately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- I want to ask that if/when this hook is approved, it be set for October 31 to go with the Halloween set (Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Halloween set). Di (they-them) (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Di (they-them): I support this! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Vivian Stranders
- ... that British Royal Air Force officer and First World War veteran Vivian Stranders (pictured) became a spy for the Weimar Republic and served as an officer in the Nazi SS?
- Source: "STRANDERS was a former Royal Flying Corps officer ... At some point he was recruited by German Intelligence and in 1926 was discovered by SIS trying to persuade a Belgian national to provide him with both French and British military information intended for his German controllers. ... He joined the Waffen SS with the rank of Major" from: "Vivian Stranders". National Archives. 1 January 1926. Retrieved 2 October 2024.; the RFC became the RAF in 1918 and he continued to serve until 1921, see London Gazette refs in article.
- ALT1: ... that evidence that former British Royal Air Force officer Vivian Stranders (pictured) was spying for Germany was found when he was investigated for bigamy in 1926? Source: "on 31 July 1926, Sir Vernon Kell brought some papers from MI5 to Norman Kendal, the Deputy Assistant Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, relating to one Vivian Stranders who was alleged to have committed bigamy ... on 31 July 1926, Sir Vernon Kell brought some papers from MI5 to Norman Kendal, the Deputy Assistant Chief Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, relating to one Vivian Stranders who was alleged to have committed bigamy ... On 6 December, Special Branch were informed by M15 that Stranders, now resident in Germany, had been engaged on espionage on behalf of that country; that the matter had been placed by MI5 before the Director of Public Prosecutions; and that, on the facts given by MI5, the arrest of Stranders, on his next arrival in Britain, would be justified." from: Hennessey, Thomas; Thomas, Claire (15 July 2010). Spooks the Unofficial History of MI5 From M to Miss X 1909-39. Amberley Publishing Limited. pp. 274–276. ISBN 978-1-4456-0799-3.
- ALT2: ... that the British-born Jew Vivian Stranders (pictured) served as an officer in the Nazi SS? Source: "13 June, a meeting was convened to discuss these recruitment difficulties. One of the attendees was SS-Major Vivian Stranders, an Englishman who had served in the British Army in the First World War before becoming a naturalised German in 1933 ... Astonishingly enough, this long-standing British member of the NSDAP and SS was also Jewish a fact known to at least some of his colleagues" from: Weale, Adrian (26 August 2010). The SS: A New History. Little, Brown Book Group. p. 244. ISBN 978-0-7481-2551-7.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/LaTasha Barnes
Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 10
[edit]Santa Maria Maggiore, Venice
- ... that , since it was deconsecrated, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Santa Croce, Venice, has been used as a stable and a tobacco warehouse and that its grounds now house a prison? Source: http://www.veneziamuseo.it/TERRA/Santa_Croce/Crose/crose_cie_mazor.htm https://cultura.gov.it/luogo/chiesa-di-santa-maria-maggiore-di-venezia https://www.invenicetoday.com/%5C/tour/chiese/Santa-Croce/Chiesa-di-Santa-Maria-Maggiore.htm https://storico.beniculturali.it/mibac/opencms/MiBAC/sito-MiBAC/Luogo/MibacUnif/Luoghi-della-Cultura/visualizza_asset.html?id=153604&pagename=57
Bogger (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Teniky
- ... that an enigmatic ancient site deep in Madagascar may have been built by Zoroastrians?
꧁Zanahary꧂ 03:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- NatGeo link provided above is subscription-only, and is not listed in the article yet; reviewers with access will be needed at some point. But all the same, Zanahary (talk · contribs), keep up the good work on Malagasy topics here! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have fixed the lack of the NG article (I’ll add more citations as I expand the section on archaeology). One can access the article at archive.ph. Thanks Slgrandson! I took a long break, but I am easing back into wiki. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 23:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season
- ... that several major U.S. politicians have spread conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season?
- Source: "During this late-season surge, a number of conspiracy theories began spreading about the nature of hurricanes Helene and Milton and about the post-storm disaster recovery. Numerous falsehoods and conspiracies were spread by several far-right influencers, Republican politicians, and presidential candidate Donald Trump." Washington Post, New York Times, Associated Press
- Reviewed: [[]]
— Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 06:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
All Hell Breaks Loose (Charmed)
- ... that "All Hell Breaks Loose", the last episode of Charmed to feature Shannen Doherty as Prue, was also directed by her?
- ALT1: ... that Shannen Doherty was fired from Charmed shortly before her last episode "All Hell Breaks Loose" aired because of an ongoing feud with co-star Alyssa Milano? Source: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2023-12-19/charmed-shannen-doherty-fired-alyssa-milano-holly-marie-combs
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
So American
- ... that "So American" is considered the first love song in Olivia Rodrigo's discography by critics?
- Source: Nylon, Rolling Stone, South China Morning Post
NØ 08:45, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Victoria Roshchyna
- ... that the car of Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna was once fired on by Russian tanks?
- Source:
"On March 7, last year she came across a battalion of Russian tanks, they fired in the direction of her car."
Nemtsova, Anna (2023-10-04). "'Courage Award'-Winning Ukraine Reporter Goes Missing". The Daily Beast. Retrieved 2024-10-11."On March 5, 2022, the car that Roshchyna was traveling in was shot at by Russian forces."
Caruso, Carmela (2023-10-26). "Fears Grow for Ukrainian Journalist Missing Almost 3 Months". Voice of America. Retrieved 2024-10-11.
- ALT1: ... that Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna once refused to accept an award in person, so she wouldn't need to interrupt her reporting? Source:
"She recalled how when the IWMF invited Roshchyna to the United States to accept the courage award in person, Roshchyna declined, saying she needed to keep reporting."
Scott, Liam (2024-05-31). "As Russia confirms it jailed missing Ukrainian journalist, calls mount for her release". Voice of America. Retrieved 2024-10-11. - ALT2: ... that the colleague of missing Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna reported on her disappearance in the hope that it would dissuade Roshchyna's captors from further torturing her? Source:
"The Daily Beast on Wednesday published a report from Kyiv about the disappearance by Anna Nemtsova, a Russian journalist whom Lees Muñoz described as a friend and colleague of Roshchyna’s. “I think it’s time to raise hell and publish,” Nemtsova told Lees Muñoz. “At least if she’s in the basement, they’ll stop torturing her.”"
Pietsch, Bryan (2023-10-23). "Ukrainian journalist missing in Russian-occupied territory". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-10-10. - Reviewed:
- Comment:
The Daily Beast can be opiniated, and tends towards sensationalist presentation, but its facts seem good here.Found a VoA source to corroborate the car shooting, and it went into more detail anyway. In Alt3, "in the basement" is an apparent reference to the Russian government. If somebody else reads it and agrees with me that I'm not misreading the WaPo article, I'd be happy to amend the article/hook.
GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 03:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Last Call BBS
- ... that Zachtronics' final game, Last Call BBS, contains elements of all of their previous?
- Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/last-call-bbs-is-a-tour-through-a-decade-of-zachtronics-indie-development ("The collection isn't just a bunch of throwbacks to the studio’s stellar puzzle design though. They also evoke what it feels like to play a Zach-like.")
- ALT1: ... that Last Call BBS contains a chip-manufacturing game, a model building simulator, a game of Solitaire, and more? Source: https://hardcoregamer.com/news/the-final-zachtronics-with-last-call-bbs-early-access-release/424600/ ("There's always solitaire on the desktop to keep you busy ... circuit creation, and even a Gundam-style model creator.")
- Reviewed:
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 11
[edit]Salmon n' Bannock
- ... that Salmon n' Bannock's notoriety led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family?
- Source: "But for Cook, Salmon n' Bannock is about more than just great food. This is the place that reunited her with the family she never knew." "Indigenous cuisine reconnected a Sixties Scoop survivor with family, community and culture". CBC Radio. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. 6 October 2017. Retrieved 11 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that actress Jane Fonda "went crazy" for Salmon n' Bannock's smoked oolichan? Source: The First Nations food “was a first for me,” Fonda wrote on her website, “and the food, all Indigenous recipes, fresh and local, was delicious.” Owner Inez Cook recalls, “she went crazy for the smoked oolichan.” Stainsby, Mia (9 May 2018). "Restaurant review: First Nations food shines at Salmon n' Bannock". Vancouver Sun. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Vancouver restaurant Salmon n' Bannock features an all-Indigenous Canadian staff? Source: “My bistro is unique. It’s the only restaurant in Vancouver that offers 100 percent First Nations’ food, and it’s staffed entirely by Native people” Tammemagi, Hans (13 September 2018). "Traditional Food Makes a Comeback in the Pacific Northwest". ICT News. Retrieved 11 October 2024.
"From the outset, Cook wanted Salmon n' Bannock to feature an all-Indigenous team representing as many different Nations as possible." Urwin, Simon (18 March 2021). "The restaurateur who overcame Canada's Sixties Scoop". BBC. Retrieved 10 October 2024. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Slop (artificial intelligence)
- Comment: Thank you so much in advance for the reviewer for their time reviewing this article! In terms of some context for the first hook, Inez Cook was a victim of the Sixties Scoop, a policy of forced assimilation which saw Indigenous Canadian children removed from their families and placed into White Canadian households. Cook is Nuxalk, but was removed from her culture. The restaurant's coverage led to Nuxalk community members coming to the restaurant and finding her extended familial ties within the community and beyond.
Ornithoptera (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Glomp
- ... that a "glomping circle" (practice pictured) in 2008 reportedly lasted for over seven hours?
- Source: Geographical Aesthetics: Imagining Space, Staging Encounters
Morgan695 (talk) 23:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Anatolii Brezvin
- ... that Anatolii Brezvin began a program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years?
- ALT1: ... that Anatolii Brezvin helped establish a minor ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and sought to open 60 ice rinks? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- ALT2: ... that Anatolii Brezvin created a women's ice hockey championship in Ukraine, and entered their national team into the IIHF World Women's Championship? Source: https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2024/wm/static/60880/anatolii_brezvin
- Reviewed: Nathaniel Coe and Albert Schädler
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Fengshan (general)
- Source: Zhu Jiang (朱江) (9 October 2010). "Bombs Fall" 炸弹落入 (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. Retrieved 11 October 2024. "后来一段时期,因“炸弹”与“炸蛋”同音,广州不少餐馆曾把这道菜叫做“凤山入城”。(Later, because "bomb" and "fried egg" have the same pronunciation, many restaurants in Guangzhou called this dish "Fengshan Enters the City)."
- ALT1: ... that the assassination of Fengshan (pictured) resulted in a pun combining fried eggs and bombs? Source: Zhu Jiang (朱江) (9 October 2010). "Bombs Fall" 炸弹落入 (in Chinese). Phoenix Television. Retrieved 11 October 2024. "后来一段时期,因“炸弹”与“炸蛋”同音,广州不少餐馆曾把这道菜叫做“凤山入城”。(Later, because "bomb" and "fried egg" have the same pronunciation, many restaurants in Guangzhou called this dish "Fengshan Enters the City)."
- ALT2: ... that Fengshan (pictured) began as a translator but ultimately led several divisions of the Beiyang Army? Source: *Rhoads, Edward J. M. (2000). Manchus and Han: Ethnic Relations and Political Power in Late Qing and Early Republican China, 1861–1928. Seattle: University of Washington Press. ISBN 978-0-295-98040-9.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Cock Destroyers (1 of 2)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Aaj Ki Raat (2024 song)
- ... that Sachin–Jigar's 2024 single "Aaj Ki Raat" from the film Stree 2 peaked at #1 on Billboard India for consecutive eight weeks through 24 August 2024 to 12 October 2024?
- ALT1: ... that Sachin–Jigar's 2024 single "Aaj Ki Raat" from the film Stree 2 was shot on Tamannaah Bhatia's birthday in the 5 degree temperature? Source: https://www.aninews.in/news/entertainment/bollywood/its-special-because-i-shot-it-on-my-birthday-tamannaah-bhatia-on-her-song-aaj-ki-raat-from-stree-220240727200804/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Doris Ilda Allen
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Beijing Hanhai
- ... that, of the paintings sold by Beijing Hanhai, one was stolen by an emperor and another was hidden in a well?
- Source: Stolen by an Emperor: Zhu, Ying (19 November 2019). "Ancient Artwork's Happy Ending". Shanghai Daily. Archived from the original on 11 October 2024. Retrieved 11 October 2024.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 12
[edit]Hasan Ali (activist)
- ... that in 1996, language activist Hasan Ali used seven sentences to distinguish the Osing language from Javanese in front of experts? Source: [25], p30-31
- ALT1: ... that language activist Hasan Ali spent over 20 years to compile a dictionary of the Osing language? Source: [26]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Ragnvi Torslow
- ... that Ragnvi Torslow, a five-time Swedish figure skating champion in 1920s went on to be one of the founders of the Bilkåren voluntary defence corps, training 3000 women to drive during World War II?
- Reviewed:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 13
[edit]Chen Qiyou
- ... that Chen Qiyou, a would-be assassin, later became part of the Chinese Committee for World Peace?
- Source: Would-be assassin: 陈其尤 [Chen Qiyou] (in Chinese). Haifeng County Municipal Government. 6 June 2020. Archived from the original on 12 October 2024. Retrieved 11 October 2024.; Committee for World Peace: Bartke, Wolfgang (2012). Who Was Who in the People's Republic of China: With More than 3100 Portraits. Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 978-3-11-096823-1.
- ALT1: ... that Chen Qiyou was made a personal representative of Chiang Kai-shek in Hong Kong, but later published a newspaper challenging his leadership? Source: Song Yuzhi (宋淯知) (5 September 2018). 陈其尤:其心昭昭 致公情尤 [Chen Qiyou: His Heart is Clear and His Love for the Public is Strong]. China Children's Press (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 13 October 2024. Retrieved 13 October 2024 – via Xinhai Revolution Network.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Cock Destroyers (2 of 2)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Mały Brzostek
- ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
- Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT1: ... that in medieval Poland a town has been "absorbed" by its bigger neigbour? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT2: ... that in Poland there existed a town which has never appeared on any maps? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first nomination, so go easy on me :)
Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Neath, New South Wales
- ... that the rural village of Neath, New South Wales, has a population of five Tok Pisin speakers?
- ALT1: ...that the village of Neath, New South Wales, shares a name with Neath, old south Wales?
- Source: Census
Cremastra (talk) 16:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh
- ... that Manipuri socialist politician Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh was jailed for 12 months for protests in favour of restoring the state legislative assembly?
- Source: Who's who in the Manipur Legislative Assembly. Manipur Legislative Assembly Secretariat., 1964. p. 10
Soman (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
1957 Manipur Territorial Council election
- ... that out of 148 candidates in the 1957 Manipur Territorial Council election there was only one woman?
- Source: V. Venkata Rao. A Century of Government and Politics in North East India, 1874-1980: Manipur. S. Chand, 1991. pp. 92-93, 194
Soman (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Socialist Party of India (1955)
- ... that in its 1962 election campaign the Socialist Party of India (election symbol pictured) demanded that twice yearly inter-caste dining be made a mandatory criteria for government employment?
- Source: Sinha, L. P. THE LEFTWING PARTIES AND THE GENERAL ELECTIONS, 1962. The Indian Journal of Political Science, vol. 23, no. 1/4, 1962, pp. 361–70. JSTOR
Soman (talk) 15:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Roads in Ukraine
- ... that because of the Russo-Ukrainian War, more then 25,000 km (16,000 mi) of state and local roads, and 344 bridges and overpasses, were destroyed or damaged in Ukraine?
- Reviewed:
NikolaiVektovich (talk) 14:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Anastasia Somoza
- ... that as a nine-year-old, disability rights advocate Anastasia Somoza lobbied U.S president Bill Clinton for her twin sister to be allowed to join her in a mainstream classroom? Source: Desert News
Innisfree987 (talk) 09:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Nazi crimes against children
- ... that Nazi crimes against children resulted in over two million victims, from actions such as euthanasia to kidnapping and mass murder? Source: 2m estimate from cited book Lukas (1994). For other keywords, see academic sources cited in relevant sections
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 14
[edit]Francis L. Sampson
- ... that Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story involving Francis L. Sampson (pictured), a paratrooper chaplain who eventually became the 12th Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army?
- Source: Longden, Tom (Dec 16, 2007). "War hero Sampson carried message of peace". The Des Moines Register. Retrieved 25 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that when Francis L. Sampson (pictured) was captured during the D-Day landings, German soldiers did not believe he was a non-combatant because they had never seen a paratrooper chaplain before? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Dwight Eisenhower nominated Francis L. Sampson (pictured) for the Medal of Honor, but he did not receive it as Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall did not believe it to be appropriate for non-combatants? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The ALT1 and ALT2 hooks may need rewording; I'm open to suggestions. ALT2 could use File:D-Day Francis Sampson burials.jpg instead, perhaps cropped and zoomed a bit.
~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
John W. Keogh
- ... that John W. Keogh killed an attorney to encourage redistricting? Source: The Daily Chronicle
- ALT1: ... that John W. Keogh was driven to insanity by malapportionment? Source: The Daily Chronicle
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Patricia Taylor
- Comment: Feel free to suggest other hooks if you can think of something more catchy :)
Elli (talk | contribs) 03:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Laws of London
- ... that according to the medieval legal compilation known as the Laws of London, also known as IV Æthelred, merchants from lands ruled by the German emperor appear to have enjoyed special trading privileges in eleventh-century London?
- Source: Robertson, Laws, p. 324; Naismith, "Laws of London", p. 2
Robertson: 'Subjects of the emperor appear to be specially privileged.' Naismith: 'Traders in London came from all over northern Europe: those of Rouen, Flanders, Ponthieu, Normandy and Francia are singled out, as well as others from specific towns in the Low Countries (Huy, Liège and Nivelles) and a group referred to as ‘the men of the emperor’ (homines imperatoris) who had especially wideranging
privileges.'- Reviewed:
Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 15
[edit]Rincón Chileno
- ... that Rincón Chileno was nicknamed the "second Chilean consulate" by the Chilean immigrant community in Los Angeles?
- ALT1: ... that Rincón Chileno was described by Jonathan Gold "as much community center as it is a restaurant"? Source: [29]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aniello Prisco
- Comment: I ask the reviewer's indulgence to please give me until Saturday (PDT) to upload an improved photo of Rincón Chileno's exterior. This one image here is the only one I have handy; thought I had more, but it turned out not.
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Song Zhenzhong, Song Qiyun, Xu Linxia
- ... that Song Zhenzhong (pictured), the son of Song Qiyun and Xu Linxia, was detained by the Kuomintang before his first birthday and executed at age eight?
- Source: Zhang Jingshu (张静姝) (24 May 2019). 宋绮云、徐林侠:革命伴侣共谱赞歌 [The Short but Brilliant Eight-Year Life of "Little Radish Head" Song Zhenzhong]. Beijing News (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 15 October 2024. Retrieved 15 October 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Filomena Fortes, Template:Did you know nominations/Anaïs Gallagher (1 and 2 of 3)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Bliss (photograph)
- ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was initially a stock photo? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the lush rolling hill of Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, is now covered with vineyards? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was photographed in Sonoma County, California? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT3: ... that Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was photographed by a former National Geographic photographer? Source: Rooke, Hannah (August 7, 2023). "Have You Seen the "Most Viewed Photo Ever"?". Digital Camera World. Archived from the original on October 8, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- ALT4: ... that the rolling hill of Bliss, the default wallpaper of Windows XP, was captured after a phylloxera infestation? Source: Cain, Abigail (July 3, 2017). "The Story Behind the World's Most Famous Desktop Background". Artsy. Archived from the original on July 13, 2024. Retrieved October 7, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1909 Chinese provincial elections
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Yen and Ai-Lee
- ... that the director of Yen and Ai-Lee created the film to collaborate with his actress wife?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that Yen and Ai-Lee is the first Taiwanese film to win a Kim Jiseok Award at the Busan International Film Festival? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the dual roles played by Kimi Hsia in Yen and Ai-Lee were originally conceived as two distinct characters? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that the 2024 film Yen and Ai-Lee is shot in black-and-white? Source: [4][5]
- ALT4: ... that Yen and Ai-Lee was set in Meinong District, Kaohsiung, because the director felt its landscape was suitable for black-and-white cinematography? Source: [6]
- ALT5: ... that the opening scene of Yen and Ai-Lee was rewritten as a long take due to rain during filming? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pan He
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- ^ Chou, Inna (4 October 2024). "《小雁與吳愛麗》入圍釜山影展、金馬8項大獎!劇情、上映日期、預告⋯電影資訊一覽". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 15 October 2024.
導演林書宇也進一步透露拍攝《小雁與吳愛麗》的靈感,就是來自於想要和妻子夏于喬一起拍一部電影
[Director Tom Lin Shu-yu further revealed that the inspiration for Yen and Ai-Lee came from his desire to make a film with his wife, Kimi Hsia.] - ^ Liao, Yu-yang; Lai, Sunny (11 October 2024). "Taiwanese film wins top prize at Busan Int'l Film Festival". Focus Taiwan. Retrieved 15 October 2024.
Taiwanese film "Yen and Ai-Lee" (小雁與吳愛麗) won the Busan International Film Festival's (BIFF) top prize "Kim Jiseok Award" on Friday, marking the first Taiwanese film to receive the award.
- ^ 許瑞麟 (1 October 2024). "林書宇專訪/《小雁與吳愛麗》寫過最沒把握的劇本 接受自己的「工整」:這是我的天性". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024.
「一開始在寫劇本的時候,我只是想要看到一個更生人的夏于喬,同時我也想要看到另外一個在上表演課的夏于喬,但這兩個角色是怎麼一回事,其實寫的時候我不知道。」沒想到寫著寫著,便將片中「兩個夏于喬」連結在一起,為觀眾增添了一點驚喜。
["At the beginning of writing the script, I just wanted to see a rehabilitated Kimi Hsia, while also wanting to see another Hsia taking acting classes, but I did not know how these two characters would connect." Unexpectedly, as he continued writing, he merged the "two Kimi Hsias" into one, adding a surprise for the audience.] - ^ Howell, June (3 October 2024). "夏于喬、林書宇首度合作《小雁與吳愛麗》成金馬獎贏家,亮眼成績背後藏深刻夫妻相處之道:「下班就不要談公事!」". Tatler Asia (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024.
選擇黑白的視覺呈現方式,並非一個單純的美學決定,而是一種深刻情感的凝聚與放大。林書宇指出,這部電影並不是史詩般的宏大敘事,而是細膩捕捉母女之間複雜的情感流動。他認為,黑白影像能夠去除色彩的干擾,使觀眾更專注於演員的表演。
[The choice of a black-and-white visual style is not merely an aesthetic decision but a way to condense and amplify deep emotions. Tom Lin Shu-yu pointed out that this film is not an epic narrative, but rather delicately captures the complex emotional flow between a mother and daughter. He believes that black-and-white imagery removes the distraction of color, allowing the audience to focus more on the actors' performances.] - ^ Scott, Matthew (10 October 2024). "It's all there in black and white in 'Yen and Ai-Lee'". Taiwan News. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
First, the film deals with domestic violence, and Lin chose to shoot in black and white.
- ^ "平衡直覺與現實,在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
他親自開車到處尋找鄉鎮,一個個拍照、調成黑白看感覺,因景觀樣貌而非文化特性挑中了美濃。
[He (Tom Lin Shu-yu) personally drove around searching for towns, taking photos and adjusting them to black-and-white to gauge the feel, ultimately choosing Meinong based on its landscape rather than its cultural characteristics.] - ^ "平衡直覺與現實,在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024.
本片令人印象深刻的長鏡頭開場,便是情急之下生出的靈光──原本林書宇安排很多分鏡,小雁會騎腳踏車經過夜市,鏡頭先帶到眾人看她的反應,才轉而見到小雁本人。景都勘好了,卻無奈碰上無法控制的雨,如果將就在有雨的狀況下拍了一顆,下一顆鏡頭便要考慮連戲問題,但又沒預算發水車⋯⋯。為此,林書宇連夜苦思後決定:改用一顆長鏡頭搞定,並利用多 roll 的空景時間拿來放片頭 credit。
[The film’s iconic long take opening scene was born from a moment of urgency—originally, Tom Lin Shu-yu had planned many shots where Yen would ride her bicycle through the night market, first showing the reactions of those watching before revealing Yen herself. The locations were scouted, but unfortunately, they faced uncontrollable rain; if they filmed in the rain for one shot, they would have to consider continuity for the next shot, but there was no budget for a water truck... As a result, after a night of contemplation, Lin Shu-yu decided to use a single long take to accomplish this and utilized the extra roll of empty scenery to display the opening credits.]
Pulp and paper industry in Indonesia
- ... that the Indonesian pulp and paper industry collectively control over 10 million hectares of land? Source: [30]
- ALT1: ... that the first modern paper factory in Indonesia (pictured) was opened in 1922? Source: [31]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xifeng concentration camp
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 07:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Ratnākara
- ... that Ratnākara may have invented the poetic device of vakrokti?
- Source: Bronner and McCrea 2001 439–440.
- Reviewed:
TryKid [dubious – discuss] 07:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
2018 Batman by-election
- ... that at the 2018 Batman by-election, the Division of Batman was politically divided by the "hipster-proof fence" or "quinoa curtain"?
- ALT1: ... that the 2018 Batman by-election caused significant in-fighting within the Australian Greens that damaged their campaign at the 2018 Victorian state election? Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/greens-blame-internal-problems-negative-media-for-election-loss/10950124
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Morrow (Australian politician)
GraziePrego (talk) 03:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on October 16
[edit]Tea production in Indonesia
- ... that although tea was introduced to Indonesia in 1684, commercial production only began in the 1820s? Source: [32]
- ALT1: ... that during the colonial period, Indonesia was the largest exporter of tea outside of the British Raj? Source: [33]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veiqia
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
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