Wikipedia:Categories for discussion

"WP:CFD" redirects here. For criteria for deletion, see WP:Criteria for deletion.

"WP:CFR" redirects here. For criteria for redaction, see WP:Criteria for redaction.

XFD backlog

V	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Total
CfD	0	0	0	0	0
TfD	0	0	0	4	4
MfD	0	0	5	1	6
FfD	0	0	0	2	2
RfD	0	0	0	36	36
AfD	0	0	0	3	3

Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.

For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:

1. Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
2. Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.

Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.

When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.

Scope

CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.

Current discussions

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  • Previous 8 to 21 days
• Speedy renaming requests
• Archive and indices

Discussions awaiting closure

See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.

How to use CfD

Nomination procedure

Twinkle

You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.

Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.

MassCFD

You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.

Manual nominations

I	Preliminary steps. Before nominating a category: Read and understand the guidance for category names and overcategorization. For categories containing biographical articles, read the guidance for categorization of people. For categories containing the user pages of Wikipedians, read the guidance for user categories. In the following special cases: If a category is a red link, then it is already deleted (or was never created in the first place) and does not need to be nominated. If a category is unpopulated, use {{db-catempty}} to request it be speedily deleted in 7 days. If a category is populated solely by a template (other than a stub template, see #Stub types below) and you are proposing to delete both the category and template, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.
II	Edit the category. Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here. Otherwise, if nominating a single category: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2}} For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter) If nominating a group of related categories, use a bundled nomination: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd|CfD section name}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category|CfD section name}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2|CfD section name}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name|CfD section name}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2|CfD section name}} For converting the category into a list, {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name|CfD section name}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion|CfD section name}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter) Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving. To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. {{cfd full}}, {{cfm full}}, {{cfr full}}, {{cfs full}} and {{cfl full}}. Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page. Consider adding {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 October 16|CfD section name}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator. For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.
III	Create the CFD section. Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this. If nominating a single category: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category 1|target2=Destination category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~}} For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}} For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows: ==== Cfd section name ==== * 1st category * 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming] * Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature. If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using {{hidden}} to hide some of the nominated categories. In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]]. Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Stub types

I	Preliminary steps. In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming: Read and understand guidance for creating stub types and stub type naming conventions. Review the list of existing stub types—be advised, this list may not be comprehensive. If you wish to: Create a new stub type—follow the procedure for proposing new stub types. Delete, merge or rename a stub category only, without deleting or renaming the associated stub template—follow the instructions above this section. Delete or rename a stub template—continue to section II.
II	Edit the template. Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed. For deletion, use {{subst:Sfd-t|Section name}} For renaming, use {{subst:Sfr-t|Proposed name|Section name}} Please include "SFD" or "SFR" in the edit summary, and don't mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving. Consider notifying the template's creator on their talk page. To find the contributor, check the page history of the stub template.
III	Create the CFD section. Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters): For deletion, use {{subst:sfd-t2|TemplateName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} For renaming, use {{subst:sfr-t2|TemplateOldName|TemplateNewName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating. Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Notifying interested projects and editors

In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 October 16|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.

Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the category

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.

Notifying other interested editors

It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.

Closing procedure

After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.

Redirecting categories

"WP:CAT-R" redirects here. For the guideline on categorizing redirects, see Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects.

For an essay on this topic, see WP:Category redirects that should be kept.

In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.

In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.

A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.

Speedy renaming and merging

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

• Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

• Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
• Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
• Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

• Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
• Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

• This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
• This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
• This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

• Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
• This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
  • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
  • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
• This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
• Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

• This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
• The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

• This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

• A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
  • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
  • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
• If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 09:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 114 open requests ().

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

• Category:Moon Jae-in Government to Category:Moon Jae-in government – C2A: not a proper noun seefooddiet (talk) 00:34, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:British political party leadership election templates to Category:United Kingdom political party leadership election templates – C2C per parent categories. HandsomeFella (talk) 21:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Park Geun-hye Government to Category:Park Geun-hye government – C2A: not a proper noun seefooddiet (talk) 17:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Highways in India by state or union territory to Category:National highways in India by state or union territory – C2A: Capitalization fix. Also to match the capitalization of National highways of India. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:National Highways in Andhra Pradesh to Category:National highways in Andhra Pradesh
  • Category:National Highways in Arunachal Pradesh to Category:National highways in Arunachal Pradesh
  • Category:National Highways in Assam to Category:National highways in Assam
  • Category:National Highways in Bihar to Category:National highways in Bihar
  • Category:National Highways in Chandigarh to Category:National highways in Chandigarh
  • Category:National Highways in Chhattisgarh to Category:National highways in Chhattisgarh
  • Category:National Highways in Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu to Category:National highways in Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu
  • Category:National Highways in Delhi to Category:National highways in Delhi
  • Category:National Highways in Goa to Category:National highways in Goa
  • Category:National Highways in Gujarat to Category:National highways in Gujarat
  • Category:National Highways in Haryana to Category:National highways in Haryana
  • Category:National Highways in Himachal Pradesh to Category:National highways in Himachal Pradesh
  • Category:National Highways in Jammu and Kashmir to Category:National highways in Jammu and Kashmir
  • Category:National Highways in Jharkhand to Category:National highways in Jharkhand
  • Category:National Highways in Karnataka to Category:National highways in Karnataka
  • Category:National Highways in Kerala to Category:National highways in Kerala
  • Category:National Highways in Ladakh to Category:National highways in Ladakh
  • Category:National Highways in Madhya Pradesh to Category:National highways in Madhya Pradesh
  • Category:National Highways in Maharashtra to Category:National highways in Maharashtra
  • Category:National Highways in Manipur to Category:National highways in Manipur
  • Category:National Highways in Meghalaya to Category:National highways in Meghalaya
  • Category:National Highways in Mizoram to Category:National highways in Mizoram
  • Category:National Highways in Nagaland to Category:National highways in Nagaland
  • Category:National Highways in Odisha to Category:National highways in Odisha
  • Category:National Highways in Puducherry to Category:National highways in Puducherry
  • Category:National Highways in Punjab, India to Category:National highways in Punjab, India
  • Category:National Highways in Rajasthan to Category:National highways in Rajasthan
  • Category:National Highways in Sikkim to Category:National highways in Sikkim
  • Category:National Highways in Tamil Nadu to Category:National highways in Tamil Nadu
  • Category:National Highways in Telangana to Category:National highways in Telangana
  • Category:National Highways in Tripura to Category:National highways in Tripura
  • Category:National Highways in Uttar Pradesh to Category:National highways in Uttar Pradesh
  • Category:National Highways in Uttarakhand to Category:National highways in Uttarakhand
  • Category:National Highways in West Bengal to Category:National highways in West Bengal
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Perth and Kinross to Category:Scheduled monuments in Perth and Kinross – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Renfrewshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in Renfrewshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Shetland to Category:Scheduled monuments in Shetland – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in South Ayrshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in South Ayrshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Stirling to Category:Scheduled monuments in Stirling – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in the Scottish Borders to Category:Scheduled monuments in the Scottish Borders – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Midlothian to Category:Scheduled monuments in Midlothian – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Fife to Category:Scheduled monuments in Fife – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in East Lothian to Category:Scheduled monuments in East Lothian – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Clackmannanshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in Clackmannanshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Dumfries and Galloway to Category:Scheduled monuments in Dumfries and Galloway – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Argyll and Bute to Category:Scheduled monuments in Argyll and Bute – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in East Ayrshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in East Ayrshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in South Lanarkshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in South Lanarkshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Angus to Category:Scheduled monuments in Angus – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Aberdeenshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in Aberdeenshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in West Lothian to Category:Scheduled monuments in West Lothian – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in North Ayrshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in North Ayrshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Highland to Category:Scheduled monuments in Highland – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Moray to Category:Scheduled monuments in Moray – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Orkney to Category:Scheduled monuments in Orkney – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Dundee to Category:Scheduled monuments in Dundee – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Glasgow to Category:Scheduled monuments in Glasgow – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Aberdeen to Category:Scheduled monuments in Aberdeen – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in East Renfrewshire to Category:Scheduled monuments in East Renfrewshire – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Edinburgh to Category:Scheduled monuments in Edinburgh – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Falkirk to Category:Scheduled monuments in Falkirk – C2D. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Labor in Sweden to Category:Labour in Sweden – C2D: To match Swedish labour movement. AusLondonder (talk) 12:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Trade unions in Oman to Category:Trade unions in Asia by country – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 12:17, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Rename Category:House of Eric to Category:House of Erik, and Category:Burial sites of the House of Eric to Category:Burial sites of the House of Erik – C2D. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 09:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:WikiProject Cricket taskforces to Category:WikiProject Cricket task forces – C2A: Made a spelling mistake, while creating the category. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 07:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Saikano to Category:Shogakukan franchises – C2F. One eponymous entry. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 02:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Anti-LGBT activists to Category:Anti-LGBTQ activists – C2E/C2C Web-julio (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Gujarat under Mughal Empire to Category:Gujarat under the Mughal Empire – C2A. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 18:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
• REDIRECT Category:Television shows by host to Category:Television shows by presenter – C2D: Per television presenter (to which television host is a redirect). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Also nominating:

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Action Bronson to Category:Television shows presented by Action Bronson

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Anderson Cooper to Category:Television shows presented by Anderson Cooper

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Ellen DeGeneres to Category:Television shows presented by Ellen DeGeneres

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Pat Sajak to Category:Television shows presented by Pat Sajak

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Alex Trebek to Category:Television shows presented by Alex Trebek

  REDIRECT Category:Television shows hosted by Chuck Woolery to Category:Television shows presented by Chuck Woolery QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

  Keep all existing categories as {{catred}}s. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Films scored by Paul Smith (film and television composer) to Category:Films scored by Paul Smith (composer) – C2D: To match with Paul Smith (composer). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Through Train schools to Category:Through-train schools – C2A: "Through train" is not a proper noun and hyphenate descriptive use before "schools" WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:34, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Opposed requests

• Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee elections to Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections – C2A: per Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Election. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 10:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

  Why not fix the WP page? Gonnym (talk) 16:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Gonnym: You mean almost every page in the subcategories too? They all use "Elections". Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it doesn't really seem to be a proper name. Gonnym (talk) 21:52, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

  Well, I'm not against it, but I certainly won't be doing it either. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 13:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Women mystics to Category:Female mystics – C2C: Female is the adjective, women is the plural noun and is an outmoded way of differentiating from the parent category. --Atiru (talk) 12:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

  I have only tagged this category now. Ymblanter (talk) 21:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose. This needs to be discussed because Women versus Female for category names is never an easy/obvious conversation. See the countless women writers rename debates. Mason (talk) 01:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

  Further. This was part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_9#Women_foos, so its not eligible for being speediedMason (talk) 13:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe location redirects to Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe location redirects to lists – C2C: Consistent with the other categories in Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe redirects to lists InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose. Not speedyable as ALL location redirect categories are named as such following a full CfD. Gonnym (talk) 05:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

  Is someone following that up with a CFD for character, episode and element redirects? e.g. the siblings within Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe redirects to lists. – Fayenatic London 12:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Jesuits to Category:Jesuit people – Rename to make room for renaming Category:Society of Jesus per C2D.
  • Oppose renaming, including all sub-categories. Jesuits are people who are members of the Society of Jesus. The Society of Jesus is a religious organization that has members and runs thousands of other sub-organizations. As is clear from Category:Society of Jesus, the category includes both members and many other things, including events, organizations, spiritual practices, etc. Renaming the sub-categories is an even worse proposal because nearly all of their contents are not individual Jesuits, but are institutions. Just because the article Jesuits uses the colloquialism "Jesuits" to refer to the institution (even though technically this refers to members), it does not follow that the categories should be reorganized. This change would result in any incredibly unintuitive, inaccurate, and messy category tree. For example, why should we change the perfectly accurate and existing Category:Jesuits, which includes members, to Category:Jesuit people, which is a phrase no one uses and is less clear? Ergo Sum 13:46, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
    • @Ergo Sum: I could be wrong and Category:Jesuits (people) would be more appropriate (or the categories can be merged in some form, but this is not the most suitable solution in my opinion). However, given the title of the main article, the current naming is confusing and defies categorization standards. Jesuits should be the name of the main category in the tree. I was confused by it, that's why I put it here (so much for your "incredibly unintuitive"). The sub-items in the tree need to be named even more. It is completely in line with convention and not based on a personal feeling of what is more intuitive and what is not. FromCzech (talk) 08:30, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

      Oppose. 1) This isn't speediable. 2) There's no need to disambiguate the category tree, and 3) I see very little upside of massively disrupting a huge category tree. Mason (talk) 01:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Category:Society of Jesus to Category:Jesuits – C2D: Jesuits, the page was moved 2 years ago.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in the United States to Category:Jesuits in the United States – C2D: Jesuits, Jesuits in the United States.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in the United States by state to Category:Jesuits in the United States by state – C2D: Jesuits, Jesuits in the United States.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Arizona to Category:Jesuits in Arizona: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in California to Category:Jesuits in California: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Colorado to Category:Jesuits in Colorado: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Connecticut to Category:Jesuits in Connecticut: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Illinois to Category:Jesuits in Illinois: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Louisiana to Category:Jesuits in Louisiana: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Maryland to Category:Jesuits in Maryland: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Massachusetts to Category:Jesuits in Massachusetts: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Michigan to Category:Jesuits in Michigan: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Missouri to Category:Jesuits in Missouri: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in New York (state) to Category:Jesuits in New York (state): C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Ohio to Category:Jesuits in Ohio: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Pennsylvania to Category:Jesuits in Pennsylvania: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Texas to Category:Jesuits in Texas: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Washington (state) to Category:Jesuits in Washington (state): C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Washington, D.C. to Category:Jesuits in Washington, D.C.: C2D.
    • Category:Society of Jesus in Wisconsin to Category:Jesuits in Wisconsin: C2D. FromCzech (talk) 05:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

    Oppose. This needs discussion. There is no benefit to disrupting a huge category tree, especually via a speedy nomination Mason (talk) 01:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Apple TV games to Category:tvOS games – C2D. Consistent with the main article of tvOS, like Category:iOS games for iOS. MimirIsSmart (talk) 12:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

  I think all such nominations get objected; @Gonnym: Ymblanter (talk) 21:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

  To be honest I don't know enough on this subject. Is the fact that they were released on the operation system (tvOS) the notable fact, or the fact that they were released on the hardware the notable fact? Nintendo Switch games are notable for being released on the hardware and not on the Nintendo 3DS system software OS, which is why the category is at Category:Nintendo Switch games. This question by itself makes this not not speedy-able. Gonnym (talk) 23:08, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

  • @Ymblanter: do you formally oppose this nomination? If you don't it can be speedied after all. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

    Ok, let us process it after 48h. Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

    I oppose it, as I didn't get an answer to my question. Gonnym (talk) 11:50, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Moved to full discussion

• Category:Noblewomen in the Holy Roman Empire to Category:Noblewomen of the Holy Roman Empire – C2C: parent is Nobility of the Holy Roman Empire and the norm is of, instead of from. (I'm equally fine with Noblewomen from the Holy Roman Empire) Mason (talk) 20:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose several of its daughter categories use in. Such as Countesses in the Holy Roman Empire. The normal present is actually to use from. Of is normally used in actual titles, like Empress of the Holy Roman Empire. This may need more discussion but the general trend has been to use in when it is not clearly a title.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:27, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Johnpacklambert what general trend are you talking about? Also, I'm pretty sure that this counts as participating in a deletion discussion. Mason (talk) 01:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

  Actually for your sake it's better that you don't answer that. I'll take this to full, but regardless. Mason (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Aromanticism in fiction to Category:Fiction about aromanticism – C2C with e.g. Category:Fiction about asexuality – Fayenatic London 10:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

  The asexual category was moved without discussion. I'd propose moving to "Aromantic fiction", "Asexual fiction", and Bisexual fiction, based on Category:Gay fiction and Category:Lesbian fiction. Web-julio (talk) 16:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

  Support this alternative proposal for consistency as @Web-julio pointed out. Raladic (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

  • @Fayenatic london, Web-julio, and Raladic: this should probably moved to full discussion, one way or the other. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
    • Now at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_12#(LGBT_identity)_fiction. – Fayenatic London 12:45, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Algorithms in graph theory to Category:Graph algorithms WP:C2D. At the top of the category page: "The main section for this category is in the article List of algorithms, in the section titled Graph algorithms" [bold added]. Reverses recent bad C2D from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 4. Also per WP:COMMONNAME, Google Scholar has roughly 1k hits for "algorithms in graph theory" and roughly 6M for "graph algorithms", and there are multiple texts with "graph algorithms" in the title. The previous C2D rationale does not apply; we do not apply C2D to words picked out from title phrases, only to the whole phrase. The whole phrase here is "Graph algorithms". Its main topic is graph algorithm (redirect to same target as described in text above). The same bad reasoning from the previous C2D would then require disambuating "algorithms in graph theory" to "analysis of algorithms in graph theory", and then disambiguating "analysis", ad infinitum. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

  I fully symphatize with your reasoning, but I do not thing we can use CFDS to revert a recent CFD. Also pinging @HouseBlaster:, may be we can solve it in an easy way.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

  When I get back to my computer, I will revert the closure and relist the discussion. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

  Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 12#Category:Graph algorithms. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:31, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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